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Lauredhel is an Australian woman and mother with a disability. She blogs about disability and accessibility, social and reproductive justice, gender, freedom from violence, the uses and misuses of language, medical science, otters, gardening, and cooking.

28 responses to “More confected fat-baby epidemic panic? The “increasing trend” that isn’t.”

  1. vesta44

    Good thing I don’t live there (I live in MN, USA), my babies would have thrown their statistics all to hell back in the 1970′s (and I was fat while pregnant). My daughter, born in 1972, weighed 8 lbs and was 21″ long. My son, born in 1975, weighed 9 lbs 7 oz, and was 21″ long. I was born in 1953 and I weighed 7 lbs 12 oz and was 20″ long, my brother was born in 1956 and weighed 7 lbs 13 oz and was 21″ long. I’m sure the same thing could be said for women and their babies in Australia too.
    I think babies may be getting slightly bigger, but it’s not because their mothers are fat, it’s because their mothers are better fed and get better pre-natal care (well, the ones who can afford it or have insurance, here in the States, anyway). When the quality of life improves, babies are bigger (not necessarily fatter, just bigger), kids are taller than their parents were, etc. But that doesn’t keep the “obesity” epi-panic going, does it.

  2. Mindy

    I was told by my Ob that my first born would be big because I had gestational diabetes (and the subtext was that I was fat too, although he never actually said that). So he induced at 37 weeks, I had an emergency c-section and my son was 7 pound 8. So not a big baby at all. Better stop talking about babies now, I’m getting clucky again.

  3. Penni

    My first baby was 6pounds14 ounces or 3.142kg. She was 51cm long. Smallish side of average, right?

    Una (number two) was 10 pounds and 1 oz (4.55kg) and a surprising 58cm (22.8 inches). I am about five foot high (150cm, about the same as Kylie Minogue) and my weight before pregnancy was somewhere between 50 and 55kg. Una was late and just before she was born I had a warning, well two actually. First was my mum telling me that her mother had had two babies a daughter first (my mother) who had been smallish side of average, a second (my uncle) who was over 9 pounds. My mother in law had a similar tale. While she (and all her children) had been fairly lightweight, her mother had gone on to have big babies, at least one over 10 pounds like Una. In my case I am absolutely certain it was genetic.

    What interests me is that mine and my husband’s generation was smaller than average in both our families, in a time when women were less informed and probably had no birth plan, more likely to be turned over to a male dominated hospital environment and early inductions were likely for such fabulous reasons as not wanting to be called out during the Boxing Day test match. (Neither of our mothers smoked when pregnant with us.)

    Penni’s last blog post..Cover Sneak Peak

  4. h-jg

    “Do you know a big baby? Post your comment below.”
    Name and shame, name and shame ( !)
    Sarcasm aside, LGM babies seem to occupy this contradictory space where they’re both blameless victims ( the product of older mothers, neglectful parents, a diabetes-prone culture) and at the same time evil contributors to rising number of C sections, future fat adults, national health bills, etc etc. It’s just interesting how discourses of blame fluctuate in infant obesity articles; if the kid has obviously just been born, and can’t “exercise” ( in the sense of going out the the gym for 1 hr a day) then who is to blame? You would think it would easily be the mother, seeing as that neatly justifies the hyper-surveillance over the maternal body. And yet these LGM kiddies seem to be fetishised symbols ( for the media at least) of an “at risk” population , who are culpable for the obesity epidemic ( i.e. the world ending). The authors always seems to struggle (unconsciously?) with this

  5. Mindy

    Re car seats: you are now required by law to have any child under 4 in an approved forward facing car seat, the ones with the five point harnesss, and children between 4 and 7 must be in an approved booster seat in the backseat of the car. A child under seven can only be in the front seat if all the seats in the back are taken up with children under the age of seven. So there is a huge range of weights to cater for there. If we go the way of the UK, kids up to 12 will need to be in approved booster seats.

  6. Jill

    h-jg… That was pretty brilliant. Mythically giant fetuses fetishized by the media and blamed for rising obesity rate covers a lot of bases. I don’t even think that fat shaming babies and their mothers for producing them is really that unconscious any more. It lends itself well to the trend of trying to schedule every birth by induction or c-section, ’cause you know… the babies, they are giant.

    Jill’s last blog post..OMG TEH BABEEZ R HUGE!

  7. Rebekka

    “It is interesting to contemplate at what point large children have the finger pointed at their mothers (because it’s rarely at their parents), and at what point the blamers start deciding it’s the children’s own damn fault. How does that switch occur?”

    I doubt it’s a straight switch! Let’s not forget that mothers are still to blame for everything their adult children do, including various heinous crimes, as well as their social behaviour. I suspect up to the age of seven or so, it’s purely the mother’s fault, and after that it’s the child AND the mother’s fault, up to and including their entire adult life.

    Men, of course, don’t parent.

  8. Francis Xavier Holden

    I haven’t read the wholepaper and probably won’t, but shouldn’t the issue be not the average ( I’m too lazy atm to check if the paper refers to simple average, mean, median or something else. The “average” punter doesn’t realise there are a lot of different averages.) but whether there is an increase in the percentage of outliers up the “solid” end?

  9. Francis Xavier Holden

    The people are crying out: “Give me a curve or std. dev.s”

  10. Mindy

    I thought it was law, but my source is a newspaper article, so it could be wrong.

  11. Mindy

    The RTA (NSW) site still says children under 12 months so it looks like it hasn’t been done here yet either.

  12. kate

    Hey, to link the carseats back to the baby size bizzo – guidelines and laws based on kid age are a complete pain if your kid happens to be a (perfectly healthy thanks very much) outlier. Mine’s long leggies didn’t fit in the rear facing restraint at 6 months. The rules really ought to reflect the research – which as I understand it relates to height (because that’s what influences where the belts sit on a person). Guidelines I’ve read in the past usually focus on weight, but again, if your kid isn’t average weight for their height, that’s misleading.

  13. Cathryn

    Weight estimates by ultrasound are notoriously inaccurate, as the first commenter seemed to imply. Too many doctors today are inducing early because of a “big baby.” Unless a baby is freakishly large, there is no reason for this. A woman’s body will rarely grow a baby that’s too big for her body.

    These inductions result in emergency c-sections far too often, mostly because the induction fails due to the baby and uterus not being ready for labor! This contributes to the alarmingly high c-section rate in this country. (32 percent, while the world health organization warns societies not to exceed 15 percent.)

  14. blue milk

    lauredhel your analysis of these issues is a breath of fresh effing air.

  15. Mary

    This is a question from a position of ignorance: are tall women also likely to have heavy babies? I am 193cm tall (and weighed 4.5kg at birth, I name and shame myself!), and never come across any studies of birthweight that seem to think this is a relevant factor: that the weight of newborns should be constant regardless of their height (or their parents’) and all babies over 4kg are equally concerning (to the extent that concern is even merited).

    (Incidently, I am glad to see that the UK’s car seat laws actually require a booster seat until age 12 OR 135cm height, whichever comes first. I was 180cm at 12 years of age, a booster seat would have sized me out of some cars!)

    Thanks for the post Lauredhel, although I do hope one day to see some moderate conclusions with balanced reporting in this space!

  16. Mary

    Thanks for the post Lauredhel, although I do hope one day to see some moderate conclusions with balanced reporting in this space!

    To be clear, I call upon researchers, doctors and the press for this, not Lauredhel herself…

  17. Cath the Canberra Cook

    Also more likely to have larger babies (on average) are women who stop smoking or drinking during their pregnancies. Remember that scourge of low birth-weight babies that everyone was worried about before? The last decade or two saw the social norms about drinking & smoking change, so one would expect an increase in baby weights over that period. Reflecting that better infant health, right?

    It’s all no win. Everything’s a crisis.

  18. Kirsten

    Also more likely to have larger babies (on average) are adult mothers, and women with adequate food, and women who don’t have severe health problems (such as pre-eclampsia or hyperemesis) during pregnancy, and possibly women who don’t have to do heavy manual labour or prolonged occupational standing hours during their pregnancy.

    So if babies were getting bigger that would be a good thing, because it would suggest women were getting healthier, right?

    Oh wait, I forgot. It doesn’t matter if women are healthy, as long as they don’t have the FAT!!! Grrr.

  19. Susan

    I haven’t read all the comments, but I feel compelled to put up my weight and my children’s. I am 5’1″ and weighed 198 at the start of both of my pregnancies, I put on 30# during each pregnancy. My daughters were full term and weighed 5# 13 oz and 6# 12 oz. I was in fact repeatedly asked “Aren’t you worried about your daughter’s birthweight? ” in regards to my first born, because she was so small. This fat mom’s make fat babies scare is mind bogglingly stupid
    Susan

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