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		<title>By: Tourist Boycott of Australia &#171; Automatic Preference</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-12759</link>
		<dc:creator>Tourist Boycott of Australia &#171; Automatic Preference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] About Town UPDATE: Howard&#8217;s Wedge UPDATE: Aboriginal People &quot;Scared Stiff&quot;, and Workforce Challenges: More Reactions to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Oigal</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11894</link>
		<dc:creator>Oigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;excruciating detail exactly how Aboriginal people are treated and talked about in non-community-controlled healthcare settings&quot;

Then you would also know about the dangers and risks involved for those medical staff working in those communities, the grog fueled rages, the dread of waiting for the men too come back into the settlements.

Go sit outside Roper Bar for awhile, want something a bit more touristy try Mataranka Springs on welfare day..

Been talking for 20 years,  what say we act now, get the kids and women safe..Then talk about how to draw back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;excruciating detail exactly how Aboriginal people are treated and talked about in non-community-controlled healthcare settings&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you would also know about the dangers and risks involved for those medical staff working in those communities, the grog fueled rages, the dread of waiting for the men too come back into the settlements.</p>
<p>Go sit outside Roper Bar for awhile, want something a bit more touristy try Mataranka Springs on welfare day..</p>
<p>Been talking for 20 years,  what say we act now, get the kids and women safe..Then talk about how to draw back.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11892</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oigal, why don&#039;t you share your story? I&#039;d love to hear it.

I&#039;m basing my comments on a combination of reading and personal experience. I feel the people we should be listening closely to on this issue are, firstly, the people who know the most about it: the people in the communities themselves - we have talked about this in a number of posts here. Tigtog has a numerical roundup &lt;a href=&quot;http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=693&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; if you don&#039;t want to go searching.  Secondly, we should be listening to the people who actually conducted the NT inquiry and wrote their very detailed recommendations for action, which you can read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polemica.info/archives/2007/06/the_nts_inquiry.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here at Polemica&lt;/a&gt;. These are not &quot;easy&quot; solutions, they will take a long-term, real, commitment.

I&#039;ll bet you dollars to doughnuts I have lived and worked in an Aboriginal community-controlled health service for orders of magnitude longer than John Howard ever has; and I know in excruciating detail exactly how Aboriginal people are treated and talked about in non-community-controlled healthcare settings, both hospital and outpatient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oigal, why don&#8217;t you share your story? I&#8217;d love to hear it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m basing my comments on a combination of reading and personal experience. I feel the people we should be listening closely to on this issue are, firstly, the people who know the most about it: the people in the communities themselves &#8211; we have talked about this in a number of posts here. Tigtog has a numerical roundup <a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=693" rel="nofollow">here</a> if you don&#8217;t want to go searching.  Secondly, we should be listening to the people who actually conducted the NT inquiry and wrote their very detailed recommendations for action, which you can read <a href="http://www.polemica.info/archives/2007/06/the_nts_inquiry.html" rel="nofollow">here at Polemica</a>. These are not &#8220;easy&#8221; solutions, they will take a long-term, real, commitment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll bet you dollars to doughnuts I have lived and worked in an Aboriginal community-controlled health service for orders of magnitude longer than John Howard ever has; and I know in excruciating detail exactly how Aboriginal people are treated and talked about in non-community-controlled healthcare settings, both hospital and outpatient.</p>
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		<title>By: Oigal</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11889</link>
		<dc:creator>Oigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have any of you people ever even been to and/or worked at any of these communities?  Have you ever been to/at/near any of the grog shops on welfare day?

Simply bizarre and sickening...Take a trip soon ok, then come back with your easy PC solution.. (try and make it before next welfare day will ya, people get hurt while you are out hunting howards)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have any of you people ever even been to and/or worked at any of these communities?  Have you ever been to/at/near any of the grog shops on welfare day?</p>
<p>Simply bizarre and sickening&#8230;Take a trip soon ok, then come back with your easy PC solution.. (try and make it before next welfare day will ya, people get hurt while you are out hunting howards)</p>
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		<title>By: 1Q: Is there merit in governments playing catch-up politics? at Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11880</link>
		<dc:creator>1Q: Is there merit in governments playing catch-up politics? at Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the indigenous emergency plan, which we have written about quite extensively here at Hoyden. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]  This is where the accusation of catch-up politics has its force: reminding voters [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the indigenous emergency plan, which we have written about quite extensively here at Hoyden. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]  This is where the accusation of catch-up politics has its force: reminding voters [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fear, funding, and failure to listen: today&#8217;s indigenous news roundup at Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11862</link>
		<dc:creator>Fear, funding, and failure to listen: today&#8217;s indigenous news roundup at Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to cast a Spell of Soothing on Aboriginal people who fear another Stolen Generation with the new NT &#8220;emergency plan&#8221;: Prime Minister John Howard has urged Northern Territory Aboriginal communities not to fear his [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to cast a Spell of Soothing on Aboriginal people who fear another Stolen Generation with the new NT &#8220;emergency plan&#8221;: Prime Minister John Howard has urged Northern Territory Aboriginal communities not to fear his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aboriginal people &#8220;scared stiff&#8221;, and workforce challenges: more reactions to the Howard war on indigenous autonomy at Hoyden About Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aboriginal people &#8220;scared stiff&#8221;, and workforce challenges: more reactions to the Howard war on indigenous autonomy at Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are flowing in from various groups on the Howard plan to send in white forces to re-steal land and stamp out autonomy in Northern Territory [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are flowing in from various groups on the Howard plan to send in white forces to re-steal land and stamp out autonomy in Northern Territory [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wallaby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wallaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Framing and reframing Howard&#039;s latest attempt...&lt;/strong&gt;

There are other people who have done that more than adequately (tigtog, for example......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Framing and reframing Howard&#8217;s latest attempt&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There are other people who have done that more than adequately (tigtog, for example&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11761</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 10:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally see your point, Vatvitcha.

Anyone who hasn&#039;t read &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/21/tampa-2007-edition/#comment-379455&quot; rel=&quot;external&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vatvitcha&#039;s comment over at LP today&lt;/a&gt; should take a look at the perspective of someone who knows how the permit system for indigenous lands works (i.e. not as broken as Mal Brough represents).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally see your point, Vatvitcha.</p>
<p>Anyone who hasn&#8217;t read <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/06/21/tampa-2007-edition/#comment-379455" rel="external" rel="nofollow">Vatvitcha&#8217;s comment over at LP today</a> should take a look at the perspective of someone who knows how the permit system for indigenous lands works (i.e. not as broken as Mal Brough represents).</p>
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		<title>By: Vatvicha</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20070621.671/howards-wedge/comment-page-1/#comment-11756</link>
		<dc:creator>Vatvicha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 08:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can asure you Aboriginals in their community wont enjoy much bunches of people wandering through gawking at them in some sort of poor-fella way. Doctors, dentists, nurses etc can make themselves available - but we are talking about long term commitment here, not Howards Six Month Stunt.

We should all be prepared for Howard&#039;s media machine to be wandering around the communities putting together stories that promte their crusading master. It is sad to see Satan take credit for &#039;saving&#039; a community while he is really ruining it for the sake of votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can asure you Aboriginals in their community wont enjoy much bunches of people wandering through gawking at them in some sort of poor-fella way. Doctors, dentists, nurses etc can make themselves available &#8211; but we are talking about long term commitment here, not Howards Six Month Stunt.</p>
<p>We should all be prepared for Howard&#8217;s media machine to be wandering around the communities putting together stories that promte their crusading master. It is sad to see Satan take credit for &#8217;saving&#8217; a community while he is really ruining it for the sake of votes.</p>
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