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	<title>Comments on: She did not feel as guilty because at the funeral she found out the girl had tried to commit suicide before</title>
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		<title>By: Megan, the Mother, MySpace and the Mob &#171; Larvatus Prodeo in exile</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20071114.1134/she-did-not-feel-as-guilty-because-at-the-funeral-she-found-out-the-girl-had-tried-to-commit-suicide-before/comment-page-1/#comment-17911</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan, the Mother, MySpace and the Mob &#171; Larvatus Prodeo in exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: outfox</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20071114.1134/she-did-not-feel-as-guilty-because-at-the-funeral-she-found-out-the-girl-had-tried-to-commit-suicide-before/comment-page-1/#comment-17863</link>
		<dc:creator>outfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you can&#039;t justify this kind of behaviour on the basis that only people who were sufficiently damaged to begin with will react badly,&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because &quot;yeah I&#039;m a bigot and a bully, but I only bullied the vulnerable&quot; is such a great moral defense. Pukes. 

It&#039;s bad enough when kid&#039;s do it, but an adult?

As extreme a case as this is, it raises nasty stuff about age, gender and boundaries. I really hope that adults generally know that being irresponsible with our aggression isn&#039;t OK, but the anonymity of the net sure permits sending it out as messed up passive agression for those who want to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you can&#8217;t justify this kind of behaviour on the basis that only people who were sufficiently damaged to begin with will react badly,</p></blockquote>
<p>Because &#8220;yeah I&#8217;m a bigot and a bully, but I only bullied the vulnerable&#8221; is such a great moral defense. Pukes. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough when kid&#8217;s do it, but an adult?</p>
<p>As extreme a case as this is, it raises nasty stuff about age, gender and boundaries. I really hope that adults generally know that being irresponsible with our aggression isn&#8217;t OK, but the anonymity of the net sure permits sending it out as messed up passive agression for those who want to.</p>
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		<title>By: cjwriter</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20071114.1134/she-did-not-feel-as-guilty-because-at-the-funeral-she-found-out-the-girl-had-tried-to-commit-suicide-before/comment-page-1/#comment-17856</link>
		<dc:creator>cjwriter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of story that just makes you shake your head and wonder what must go through peoples&#039; minds. We all know about the horrors of cyberbullying, but that &lt;em&gt;adults&lt;/em&gt; would be behind it is horrendous and takes it to a whole new level.

Just why they can&#039;t be charged still seems strange to me; you&#039;d think at the very least there&#039;d be a case for harassment or slander charges to be laid. If there isn&#039;t a law which they&#039;ve broken, there definitely &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be one. But our laws worldwide can&#039;t seem to keep up with the latest technological advances, and so how can we hope to protect our children?

I wasn&#039;t sure if you&#039;ve seen this as well, but there&#039;s a new blog called Megan Had It Coming &lt;em&gt;[blog URL removed - moderator]&lt;/em&gt;... it&#039;s supposed to be written by a teenager, but the language doesn&#039;t seem right to me. Whoever it is, they&#039;ve got a lot of nerve to write with such viciousness and attack someone in death. This whole thing is just so sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of story that just makes you shake your head and wonder what must go through peoples&#8217; minds. We all know about the horrors of cyberbullying, but that <em>adults</em> would be behind it is horrendous and takes it to a whole new level.</p>
<p>Just why they can&#8217;t be charged still seems strange to me; you&#8217;d think at the very least there&#8217;d be a case for harassment or slander charges to be laid. If there isn&#8217;t a law which they&#8217;ve broken, there definitely <em>should</em> be one. But our laws worldwide can&#8217;t seem to keep up with the latest technological advances, and so how can we hope to protect our children?</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure if you&#8217;ve seen this as well, but there&#8217;s a new blog called Megan Had It Coming <em>[blog URL removed - moderator]</em>&#8230; it&#8217;s supposed to be written by a teenager, but the language doesn&#8217;t seem right to me. Whoever it is, they&#8217;ve got a lot of nerve to write with such viciousness and attack someone in death. This whole thing is just so sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Angry Dad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Angry Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those vermin should give thanks to their gods that Megan&#039;s father is a civilized man.  I am a barbarian, and if someone did something like this to my child, they would wind up as hamburger for my dinner table.  You wanna play hardball, fuckers?  Let&#039;s play fucking HARD BALL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those vermin should give thanks to their gods that Megan&#8217;s father is a civilized man.  I am a barbarian, and if someone did something like this to my child, they would wind up as hamburger for my dinner table.  You wanna play hardball, fuckers?  Let&#8217;s play fucking HARD BALL.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is unspeakably awful. Really. I can&#039;t find the appropriate words. I think the girl&#039;s poor poor parents have shown admirable restraint in ONLY driving over their lawn and smashing their stupid game table, especially with them right next door. I feel sick and furious just reading this.

If there&#039;s no law to allow these parents to be imprisoned or punished, there needs to be one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unspeakably awful. Really. I can&#8217;t find the appropriate words. I think the girl&#8217;s poor poor parents have shown admirable restraint in ONLY driving over their lawn and smashing their stupid game table, especially with them right next door. I feel sick and furious just reading this.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s no law to allow these parents to be imprisoned or punished, there needs to be one.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This  is beyond appalling.  It would be tragic enough if it were simply children tormenting each other but for an adult to be involved in this and just be able to walk away.  These people should be named.  They are not entitled to anonymity.  They are not victims here.  There should be consequences for heinous disregard for a child&#039;s mental health, if only in being shunned by the community as child killers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  is beyond appalling.  It would be tragic enough if it were simply children tormenting each other but for an adult to be involved in this and just be able to walk away.  These people should be named.  They are not entitled to anonymity.  They are not victims here.  There should be consequences for heinous disregard for a child&#8217;s mental health, if only in being shunned by the community as child killers.</p>
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		<title>By: JMarra</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s even more sad is that some writer will make a Law &amp; Order or CSI episode out of it.  And we&#039;ll watch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s even more sad is that some writer will make a Law &amp; Order or CSI episode out of it.  And we&#8217;ll watch it.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people have asked what kind of adults could seriously contemplate participating in a teenage feud.  My guess is that the &quot;adults&quot; in question haven&#039;t yet grown out of the sort of cliquish mindset which is common in high school age teenagers.  If you aren&#039;t in, you&#039;re out, and if you&#039;re out, you&#039;re fair game.  

The problem with all sorts of bullying is nobody is willing to acknowledge the consequences.  I spent twelve years of school being bullied.  I went into culture shock when I was in university, because I had absolutely no experience of being in an educational environment and *not* being bullied.  I wound up getting very depressed as a result, because I *knew* the only difference between my peers in high school and my peers in university was a matter of months.  We hadn&#039;t had some magical switch flipped to make us adults - the only thing that changed were the expectations surrounding our behaviour.  

The bullying I got wasn&#039;t physical.  It was social and emotional - the type of bullying girls do so very well.  I had my face repeatedly rubbed in my own lack of &quot;popularity&quot;, my lack of &quot;attractiveness&quot; and my lack of friends.  I had it pointed out to me that I wasn&#039;t worth talking to, that I wasn&#039;t worth knowing, that I was a freak, barely even human.  

The one lesson I want to pass on to my two nieces is &quot;life doesn&#039;t end after high school, and who you are in high school isn&#039;t who you are forever.&quot;  I find I&#039;m less than confident about passing on this lesson when there are people such as the woman described in this story allowed to peddle their poison unhindered.  Whose child is she going to target next, I wonder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people have asked what kind of adults could seriously contemplate participating in a teenage feud.  My guess is that the &#8220;adults&#8221; in question haven&#8217;t yet grown out of the sort of cliquish mindset which is common in high school age teenagers.  If you aren&#8217;t in, you&#8217;re out, and if you&#8217;re out, you&#8217;re fair game.  </p>
<p>The problem with all sorts of bullying is nobody is willing to acknowledge the consequences.  I spent twelve years of school being bullied.  I went into culture shock when I was in university, because I had absolutely no experience of being in an educational environment and *not* being bullied.  I wound up getting very depressed as a result, because I *knew* the only difference between my peers in high school and my peers in university was a matter of months.  We hadn&#8217;t had some magical switch flipped to make us adults &#8211; the only thing that changed were the expectations surrounding our behaviour.  </p>
<p>The bullying I got wasn&#8217;t physical.  It was social and emotional &#8211; the type of bullying girls do so very well.  I had my face repeatedly rubbed in my own lack of &#8220;popularity&#8221;, my lack of &#8220;attractiveness&#8221; and my lack of friends.  I had it pointed out to me that I wasn&#8217;t worth talking to, that I wasn&#8217;t worth knowing, that I was a freak, barely even human.  </p>
<p>The one lesson I want to pass on to my two nieces is &#8220;life doesn&#8217;t end after high school, and who you are in high school isn&#8217;t who you are forever.&#8221;  I find I&#8217;m less than confident about passing on this lesson when there are people such as the woman described in this story allowed to peddle their poison unhindered.  Whose child is she going to target next, I wonder?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann O'Dyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann O'Dyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t blame the dead girls&#039; mother if she burned the perpetrator&#039;s house down, and if I was on the jury I wouldn&#039;t convict her for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t blame the dead girls&#8217; mother if she burned the perpetrator&#8217;s house down, and if I was on the jury I wouldn&#8217;t convict her for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call Gummo. No reason to sink to their level.</description>
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