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11 responses to “Creaky feminist gorgons, unite”

  1. Beppie

    Wow, I had no idea that Julia Gillard came to power standing on the shoulders of straw feminists. And gee, I’m glad we have people like Shanahan to remind us that virtue and power are irreconcilable.

  2. Mark Richardson

    Shanahan’s second article is an important one. There are countless Western women who have missed out on having children. Shanahan is right, in my opinion, to blame a breakdown in the culture of marriage, rather than economics. I’m not sure, though, that she has a close enough sense of what went wrong. It wasn’t just a case of men looking for sex alone, and deceiving women who wanted marriage and children. I think the problem is that women are brought up to be so committed to an independent single girl lifestyle in their 20s, that young men finally adapt and lose their instincts toward serious commitments beyond sex and casual relationships. By the time women look seriously toward marriage in their 30s, the kind of men who would have once filled the role of husband/children’s dad aren’t around anymore in large numbers.

    The age at which family is taken seriously needs to be brought back a few years.

  3. Helen

    God, Shanahan’s article was just dripping with envy, wasn’t it? Shanahan, until a few short weeks ago the darling of the ones in power – and allowed (within her “traditional” way of working) to excercise some power of her own – albeit behind the scenes, as that’s the kind of power women are allowed in their world. Then bang! It’s all over. She’s still on the ABC board, but she can feel her grip on the reins slipping… slipping…

    And that UPSTART Julia G.! Huff! Puff!

    Hugely enjoyable.

  4. Doctor Paul

    After this effort, Shanahan is comfortably holding off the challenges of Rita Joseph and Lucy Sullivan for first claim to the title of Attila The Nun.

  5. Mindy

    I wonder what she would make of Maxine McKew’s decision to stay with a partner who is unable to father children, thus possibly also exposing herself to the title of ‘deliberately barren’ or will she get brownie points for standing by her man?

  6. Rebekka

    Mark, what the?

    “There are countless Western women who have missed out on having children.”

    Who says we’ve missed out? Perhaps we realised that for educated, intelligent women, having kids could well be seen as a mug’s game.

    “I think the problem is that women are brought up to be so committed to an independent single girl lifestyle in their 20s, that young men finally adapt and lose their instincts toward serious commitments beyond sex and casual relationships.”

    We’re what? You find me an actual, live example of a woman who was “brought up” to think an independent, single WOMAN (not girl – we’re not children in our 20s) lifestyle in their 20s was the thang, and I’ll eat my hat. I’m in my early 30s – all of my female friends were, without exception, brought up to think serious relationships were the way to go (particularly when it came to sex) and I myself would have killed for a serious relationship that wasn’t utterly screwed up in my 20s. But all the blokes around me wanted to get pissed, screw anything that moved and had no wish whatsoever to settle down and get married.

    “By the time women look seriously toward marriage in their 30s, the kind of men who would have once filled the role of husband/children’s dad aren’t around anymore in large numbers.”

    Aren’t you contradicting yourself? If teh “girls” in their 20s aren’t getting married because they’re all committed to the single “girl” lifestyle, w

    The age at which family is taken seriously needs to be brought back a few years.

  7. Rebekka

    Sorry, finger a little too fast on the send button!

    The last two paras of that comment were meant to read:

    Aren’t you contradicting yourself? If teh “girls” in their 20s aren’t getting married because they’re all committed to the single “girl” lifestyle, what the hell has happened to all the men? Why are they not around again? Did they move to another planet? Turn gay? What?

    Or is it actually that they’re married, to some of teh “girls” whom you claim are not yet interested in marriage, and it’s actually not all of us women who are rejecting the idea of committment in our 20s – just some of us find it, and some of us don’t.

    And what we’re rejecting is the notion that our only value lies in reproduction – so we may get married but we don’t want to immediately become submerged in a world of suburban drudgery, washing things in nappysan, leaking various fluids and reduced to a life of conversations with children under school age. And thank god we don’t have to.

    “The age at which family is taken seriously needs to be brought back a few years.”

    You blokes can incubate them and breastfeed them if you want to do it in your 20s. Some of us want to get an education and establish a career before we have kids. Some of us will never want to have kids. And that’s fine – we’re not “missing out”, we’re making a choice. A choice I’m personally very glad we have.

    And a choice which other women around the world don’t have, because of (among other things) a lack of education. And so the world’s population is growing – perhaps, Mark, you just think it’s the *wrong* people having babies?

  8. tigtog

    Well said, Rebekka. My eyes were rolling too hard at Mark’s comment to reply coherently to it.

  9. Helen

    It’s now well known that countries like Spain and Italy with poor work-family-and-childcare choices for women – and patriarchal family culture still strong – are at the bottom of the demographic heap. Women in countries with more female-friendly systems are having more children. (I’m talking about the developed world, of course, not countries where choice is even more of a laughable concept than it is here.) In other words, promoting an antifeminist culture is bad for the birth rate, if it is a higher birth rate you want.

    Without maternity leave and childcare won for me by Teh Second wave feminists, I might not have had my second.

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