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13 responses to “PoCo A PoCo: Fifty Two Acts of Political Correctness”

  1. La di Da

    I think it was one of Kaz Cooke’s columns (and possibly also something from Miss Manners) that made the point that “politically correct” is really, at its most basic, plain good manners and politeness. substitute “polite” for “politically correct” in the whinges about such and it shows their true ugliness: people getting their undies in a knot about having to be civil to other people.

    La di Da’s last blog post..I surrendered to obesity! Shocking tales from the crypt!

  2. Desipis

    “Words Mean Stuff: thorny language”

    Please refrain using such derogative terms such as thorny that imply that there is something negative about the general shape of male genitals. And no, what you meant doesn’t matter as:

    I do ask that all your discussions be centred on the people on the pointy end of the power structures concerned.

    Also yet again, you’re attributing negativity to male genitals.

    Yes, yes, I realise I’m being a little be silly here. My point is that no matter how something is said it is all too easy to find offense. As La di Da points out politeness is important, however politeness is determine in the context of the intended audience. Where opposition to PoCo is strongest is where it interprets all usages of a word automatically as derogatory, irrespective of how the sender(s) or receivers would interpret it. It’s perfectly fine to point out potential derogatory interpretations, but attributing malice or recklessness through misinterpretation is not going to win support for the cause of creating a more polite and considerate society.

  3. tigtog

    Desipis – I do see the point you are attempting to make, and I know that you acknowledge that you are being silly, but without an actual history of derogatory usage your use of “thorny” and “pointy” does utterly fail.

    Also, I think the idea that PoCo ever “interprets all usages of a word automatically as derogatory” is false – that’s always been a reductio ad absurdum of arguments that people should think carefully about the words they use to avoid giving unintended offense.

  4. Desipis

    Also, I think the idea that PoCo ever “interprets all usages of a word automatically as derogatory” is false

    You obviously haven’t been on the receiving end of PC when it’s used to issue punishment to those engaging in legitimate private discussion. Perhaps the use of “PC” would have been a better example of something that has historically been used for oppression.

    Lauredhel, yes I probably should have read that bit more carefully, but I got distracted by the bold type. Which is actually the focus of my point too. I see such lopsided discussion as the primary cause of the absolutism I’m preemptively taking offense to. I’ll try to pay attention next time and not be so critical of someone embarking on a self improvement journey.

    Antifeminist, antiracist, bigoted, lazy whinges will be either vigorously rebutted or deleted.

    Antiracist?

  5. Paul W.

    Desipis: I noticed that “antiracist” thing too – the mother of all Freudian slips.

  6. Paul W.

    A) i apologise to Lauredhel
    B) i shouldn’t use phrases I’ve heard but don’t understand the full meaning of
    C) I need to work on my impulsiveness (doctors told mum its cause of the brain damage from the stroke that crippled me – I’m on powerfull mood stablisers)
    D) I need to think “might this offend someone” before hitting “Send”
    E) I should have realised that i was implying that she was a racist – but i wasn’t thinking

  7. Andrew Bartlett

    Thanks for this post.

    It addresses my long-standing and still growing irritation that the ‘politically correct’ label has long been used as a catch-all way to make it seem OK for people to be bigots. And yes, simple politeness and good manners isn’t too bad a rule of thumb.

    Even better, it has introduced me to the wonderful writing of Zuky – I’m not sure how I’ve missed that until now, but such a treasure trove of truly wonderful writing I’ve discovered there.

    Andrew Bartlett’s last blog post..Political compass of US President contest

  8. Paul W.

    http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/article2065349.ece

    Author Anne Fine. She’s right – old books aimed at children need to be edited when reprinted so new generations can enjoy the “good parts” and not be influenced by remnents of the time when they were written. It’s not “PC”, it’s being sensitive to a changed world. Even “decent” people like Hugh “Dr. Doolittle” Lofting and Mark Twain were products of the time and culture they were writing in.

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