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		<title>By: Katie Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this - great piece. I just linked to it on Dollymix (sorry it&#039;s a little delayed!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this &#8211; great piece. I just linked to it on Dollymix (sorry it&#8217;s a little delayed!)</p>
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		<title>By: Feminism Friday: Popularity of long-debunked rape myths: talk about disheartening &#171; Finally, A Feminism 101 Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feminism Friday: Popularity of long-debunked rape myths: talk about disheartening &#171; Finally, A Feminism 101 Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Feminism Friday: Popularity of long-debunked rape myths: talk about&#160;disheartening  Posted on March 7, 2008 by tigtog   Originally posted at Hoyden About Town [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Feminism Friday: Popularity of long-debunked rape myths: talk about&nbsp;disheartening  Posted on March 7, 2008 by tigtog   Originally posted at Hoyden About Town [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rhianwren

&lt;blockquote&gt;I just think its foolish to put any kind of onus on the victim of the crime to be able to stop it, even with training.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely! Add into the mix that convicted rapists confess to premeditation of their crimes, with much planning of how to get their target into a vulnerable, isolated position, and it makes such an expectation even more foolish.

FXH: Nail. On. Head.  It&#039;s cliche city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rhianwren</p>
<blockquote><p>I just think its foolish to put any kind of onus on the victim of the crime to be able to stop it, even with training.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely! Add into the mix that convicted rapists confess to premeditation of their crimes, with much planning of how to get their target into a vulnerable, isolated position, and it makes such an expectation even more foolish.</p>
<p>FXH: Nail. On. Head.  It&#8217;s cliche city.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis Xavier Holden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis Xavier Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever wrote that &quot;guide&quot; has been watching too much televison. I&#039;m surprised they didn&#039;t add a number 9 - &quot;And cliched spooky/scary  music will start low a get louder&quot;

&lt;em&gt;Francis Xavier Holden&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://landownunder.blogspot.com/2008/03/sound-one-hand-typing.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sound: one hand typing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever wrote that &#8220;guide&#8221; has been watching too much televison. I&#8217;m surprised they didn&#8217;t add a number 9 &#8211; &#8220;And cliched spooky/scary  music will start low a get louder&#8221;</p>
<p><em>Francis Xavier Holden&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://landownunder.blogspot.com/2008/03/sound-one-hand-typing.html' rel="nofollow">sound: one hand typing</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Club Troppo &#187; Missing Link Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Quiggin wonders what happened to Windschuttle&#8217;s promised book on Queensland frontier violence.tigtog debunks a widely disseminated manual on how to avoid being raped. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Quiggin wonders what happened to Windschuttle&#8217;s promised book on Queensland frontier violence.tigtog debunks a widely disseminated manual on how to avoid being raped. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rhianwren</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhianwren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I did know him. He was my ex-boyfriend.

Nothing would have made me able to stop it... I couldn&#039;t believe he really &#039;meant it&#039; until he tried a second time, so how could I stop it?
I just think its foolish to put any kind of onus on the victim of the crime to be able to stop it, even with training.

&lt;em&gt;rhianwren&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://cheerfulmegalomaniac.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/a-long-rambling-post-about-my-horrible-day/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A long rambling post about my horrible day?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I did know him. He was my ex-boyfriend.</p>
<p>Nothing would have made me able to stop it&#8230; I couldn&#8217;t believe he really &#8216;meant it&#8217; until he tried a second time, so how could I stop it?<br />
I just think its foolish to put any kind of onus on the victim of the crime to be able to stop it, even with training.</p>
<p><em>rhianwren&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://cheerfulmegalomaniac.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/a-long-rambling-post-about-my-horrible-day/' rel="nofollow">A long rambling post about my horrible day?</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a nice brief resource on the most infamous rape myths:

http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/21/9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a nice brief resource on the most infamous rape myths:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/21/9" rel="nofollow">http://www.secasa.com.au/index.php/workers/21/9</a></p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Scott.  I&#039;m not surprised you absorbed some of these rape myths - they and their cousins are pervasive, to say the least.  One has to consciously re-educate oneself to get beyond them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Scott.  I&#8217;m not surprised you absorbed some of these rape myths &#8211; they and their cousins are pervasive, to say the least.  One has to consciously re-educate oneself to get beyond them.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, tigtog. I&#039;ll have to fess up, at the very least, to having given some credence to myth #1 and unfortunately, I must also admit to being somewhat ignorant of #8; I had always considered (most, if not all) rapists to be cowards who would run for cover at the first sign of resistance (maybe the media has something to be accountable for in that respect with regards to the false sense of security implied in self-defence mechanisms/courses?)

To quote an old cliche; &lt;i&gt;ya learn something new every day&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks again for an informative post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, tigtog. I&#8217;ll have to fess up, at the very least, to having given some credence to myth #1 and unfortunately, I must also admit to being somewhat ignorant of #8; I had always considered (most, if not all) rapists to be cowards who would run for cover at the first sign of resistance (maybe the media has something to be accountable for in that respect with regards to the false sense of security implied in self-defence mechanisms/courses?)</p>
<p>To quote an old cliche; <i>ya learn something new every day</i></p>
<p>Thanks again for an informative post.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 04:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;His advice about the psychology of date rapists helped me prevent myself being raped by the same man a second time… but I’m not an expert in rapist profiling, he still got me the first time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m sad to hear he got you the first time, RhianWren.  Sounds like he was someone you knew before the attack?  So none of the advice in the email above would have helped there (ETA: even if it was accurate).

It&#039;s important to be able to recognise the warning signs of potential rapists, but unfortunately because most rapists look just like normal people, some normal people get all upset at the slightest suggestion that they are not immediately perceived without a shadow of a doubt as obvious non-rapists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>His advice about the psychology of date rapists helped me prevent myself being raped by the same man a second time… but I’m not an expert in rapist profiling, he still got me the first time.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sad to hear he got you the first time, RhianWren.  Sounds like he was someone you knew before the attack?  So none of the advice in the email above would have helped there (ETA: even if it was accurate).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s important to be able to recognise the warning signs of potential rapists, but unfortunately because most rapists look just like normal people, some normal people get all upset at the slightest suggestion that they are not immediately perceived without a shadow of a doubt as obvious non-rapists.</p>
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