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	<title>Comments on: Typical MND misrepresentation: shame on you, Glenn Sacks OK, his explanation does make sense after all</title>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-131569</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jesse the K.  Good points.</description>
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		<title>By: Jesse the K</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-131560</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two Javascript issues to be aware of: 
1. unless it&#039;s very carefully designed, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webaim.org/techniques/ajax/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;many Javascript-based features are invisible or unworkable&lt;/a&gt; when using screen reader software (e.g., for those of us who use voice output to access the web).
2. Many public internet services (e.g., public libraries) can&#039;t update to the most current web browsers (yes, I know Firefox is free, but municipal institutions may not be able to control their IT with the same agility as can end users with our own fast hardware). This means that requiring &quot;modern browsers&quot; can shut out those of us who don&#039;t own personal computers (e.g., broke, displaced, homeless).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two Javascript issues to be aware of:<br />
1. unless it&#8217;s very carefully designed, <a href="http://www.webaim.org/techniques/ajax/" rel="nofollow">many Javascript-based features are invisible or unworkable</a> when using screen reader software (e.g., for those of us who use voice output to access the web).<br />
2. Many public internet services (e.g., public libraries) can&#8217;t update to the most current web browsers (yes, I know Firefox is free, but municipal institutions may not be able to control their IT with the same agility as can end users with our own fast hardware). This means that requiring &#8220;modern browsers&#8221; can shut out those of us who don&#8217;t own personal computers (e.g., broke, displaced, homeless).</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-27665</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=1638&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have just posted my thoughts on the netiquette involved regarding commentors supplying false email addresses,&lt;/a&gt; even when they subsequently supply a valid addy via direct email contact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=1638" rel="nofollow">I have just posted my thoughts on the netiquette involved regarding commentors supplying false email addresses,</a> even when they subsequently supply a valid addy via direct email contact.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-27417</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone writing in support of Glenn Sacks left 4 quite lengthy comments over 15 minutes or so, and used a fake email address in the ID field to do so.  

Fake email addresses are explicitly against our &lt;a href=&quot;http://viv.id.au/blog/?page_id=204&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Commenting Guidelines&lt;/a&gt;, the link to which is right there beneath the &quot;Leave A Reply&quot; heading.  

The longer Comments Policy also notes a no-tolerance position towards commenting behaviours which tend to silence other commentors by dominating the thread.  Excessively frequent and/or long comments are one of those behaviours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone writing in support of Glenn Sacks left 4 quite lengthy comments over 15 minutes or so, and used a fake email address in the ID field to do so.  </p>
<p>Fake email addresses are explicitly against our <a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/?page_id=204" rel="nofollow">Commenting Guidelines</a>, the link to which is right there beneath the &#8220;Leave A Reply&#8221; heading.  </p>
<p>The longer Comments Policy also notes a no-tolerance position towards commenting behaviours which tend to silence other commentors by dominating the thread.  Excessively frequent and/or long comments are one of those behaviours.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Sacks</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-27407</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Sacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa--I wrote a response to your criticism of the way I blog at http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2076 --GS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa&#8211;I wrote a response to your criticism of the way I blog at <a href="http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2076" rel="nofollow">http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=2076</a> &#8211;GS</p>
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		<title>By: PortlyDyke</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-27282</link>
		<dc:creator>PortlyDyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Glenn, and you have now also received my specific request to not link to my posts at Shakesville or my homeblog as well. I hope that you will respect my request.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Glenn, and you have now also received my specific request to not link to my posts at Shakesville or my homeblog as well. I hope that you will respect my request.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Sacks</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-27280</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Sacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa wrote &quot;given that my readers have been nice during this whole thing, I’m hoping maybe, because your readers do invade what is supposed to be a safe space and behave in a deeply offensive manner, you’ll just stop linking to me altogether.&quot;

Melissa--As you see above, you asked me to stop linking to YOUR posts, not to those of the many other writers at Shakesville. I had seen PortlyDyke&#039;s post about how society is &quot;Robbing the Hearts of Men&quot; a few weeks ago, liked it, wrote about it, and saved it as a draft until I had opportunity to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa wrote &#8220;given that my readers have been nice during this whole thing, I’m hoping maybe, because your readers do invade what is supposed to be a safe space and behave in a deeply offensive manner, you’ll just stop linking to me altogether.&#8221;</p>
<p>Melissa&#8211;As you see above, you asked me to stop linking to YOUR posts, not to those of the many other writers at Shakesville. I had seen PortlyDyke&#8217;s post about how society is &#8220;Robbing the Hearts of Men&#8221; a few weeks ago, liked it, wrote about it, and saved it as a draft until I had opportunity to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa McEwan</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080418.1616/typical-mnd-misrepresentation-shame-on-you-glenn-sacks/comment-page-1/#comment-27272</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa McEwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn Sacks linked to Portly&#039;s piece at Shakesville the same day I asked him (above) that he just stop linking to Shakesville (it looks like one day earlier only becaus of timestamp differences), and told him I get offensive comments and threatening emails every time he links to me.

Which, as you can see above, is a message he saw and responded to.  Then decided to keep on linking, ignoring my polite request and showing no regard for my safety or peace of mind.

That should tell anyone everything they need to know about Glenn Sacks.

&lt;em&gt;Melissa McEwan&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/04/puppetry-of-pentagon.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Puppetry of the Pentagon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Sacks linked to Portly&#8217;s piece at Shakesville the same day I asked him (above) that he just stop linking to Shakesville (it looks like one day earlier only becaus of timestamp differences), and told him I get offensive comments and threatening emails every time he links to me.</p>
<p>Which, as you can see above, is a message he saw and responded to.  Then decided to keep on linking, ignoring my polite request and showing no regard for my safety or peace of mind.</p>
<p>That should tell anyone everything they need to know about Glenn Sacks.</p>
<p><em>Melissa McEwan&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2008/04/puppetry-of-pentagon.html' rel="nofollow">The Puppetry of the Pentagon</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Portly, I went and had a look at the thread on Sacks&#039; blog.  Interesting, as you say, that many commentors took your post to task as making assumptions about men being angry when allegedly they&#039;re really feeling anything but, and then the first thing they accused you of was being &quot;angry&quot; with your mild comment. In other forums I&#039;d cheer for such a delicious playful exercise of deliberate irony, but in this case I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Portly, I went and had a look at the thread on Sacks&#8217; blog.  Interesting, as you say, that many commentors took your post to task as making assumptions about men being angry when allegedly they&#8217;re really feeling anything but, and then the first thing they accused you of was being &#8220;angry&#8221; with your mild comment. In other forums I&#8217;d cheer for such a delicious playful exercise of deliberate irony, but in this case I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: PortlyDyke</title>
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		<dc:creator>PortlyDyke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To chime in here on the &quot;sic &#039;em&quot; attitude at Sack&#039;s blog -- I just started getting a bunch of hateful comments at my home blog yesterday (guess where they came from?  Glenn&#039;s blog) -- and in response, no less to my &quot;Robbing the Hearts of Men&quot; post . . . cuz that one was so, you know -- man-hating and all. *eyeroll*

I left a comment in his blog and requested that he not link to me, and was accused of &quot;blaming&quot; Glenn, and of being &quot;angry&quot;. 

The comment thread was, as you can imagine . . . interesting.

&lt;em&gt;PortlyDyke&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://portlytruestories.blogspot.com/2008/04/you-know-sometimes-humans-are-amazing.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You Know -- Sometimes Humans ARE Amazing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To chime in here on the &#8220;sic &#8216;em&#8221; attitude at Sack&#8217;s blog &#8212; I just started getting a bunch of hateful comments at my home blog yesterday (guess where they came from?  Glenn&#8217;s blog) &#8212; and in response, no less to my &#8220;Robbing the Hearts of Men&#8221; post . . . cuz that one was so, you know &#8212; man-hating and all. *eyeroll*</p>
<p>I left a comment in his blog and requested that he not link to me, and was accused of &#8220;blaming&#8221; Glenn, and of being &#8220;angry&#8221;. </p>
<p>The comment thread was, as you can imagine . . . interesting.</p>
<p><em>PortlyDyke&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://portlytruestories.blogspot.com/2008/04/you-know-sometimes-humans-are-amazing.html' rel="nofollow">You Know &#8212; Sometimes Humans ARE Amazing</a></em></p>
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