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6 responses to “There’s a new dating service around, and it smells rather strongly of woo-woo”

  1. Lauredhel

    Oh, thanks for tackling this. I just wasn’t up to doing it justice this week. The eugenics side of things was definitely the number one creepy for me, though genetic privacy takes a close second.

    I’m wondering whether anyone’s racialising this “different MHC antigens” speculation. If you look at their blurb on same-sex relationships, they’ve illustrated it with a mixed-race couple, though all the het couples I see on the site look white/white. If the science ends up checking out – which I gather it doesn’t, at this point – that will rain on the anti-misgenation crowd’s parade. And I wonder whether the people doing the preliminary research have made any serious effort to include people of colour.

    Speaking of white genetics, check out what drug company DeCode are up to with the results from their bought-and-sold Iceland gene database.

  2. Ian

    It’s outdated.

    The whole notion that MHC is linked with mate discrimination rests mainly on work from lab mice. The handful of studies on humans, while widely spread by newspapers, are really pretty poor science. They don’t test alternative hypotheses and the numbers are very low.

    The work in mice has gone back and forth with generally ambiguous results:

    A lack of repeatability of several studies, and an apparent plasticity in response across experiments, questioned the robustness of the data, and the general relevance of mate choice as a primary driver of MHC diversity. [1]

    That is probably (from the latest work) because MHC is not involved in mate selection after all. The latest studies, from Jane Hurst’s lab, suggest that although mice can distinguish individuals by MHC, they don’t use this information that way. Instead, a different class of highly-variable proteins, the major urinary proteins (MUPs) are responsible for individual discrimination and mate choice. [2][3]

    I talk about this more extensively last month at Mystery Rays from Outer Space (Apr 13) and there are lots of further references and links to my previous comments on the subject in there.

    [1] Piertney, S. B., and Oliver, M. K. (2006). The evolutionary ecology of the major histocompatibility complex. Heredity 96, 7-21

    [2] Sherborne, A., Thom, M., Paterson, S., Jury, F., Ollier, W., Stockley, P., Beynon, R., Hurst, J. (2007). The Genetic Basis of Inbreeding Avoidance in House Mice. Current Biology, 17(23), 2061-2066. DOI: 10.1016/j.cub.2007.10.041

    [3] The Genetic Basis of Inbreeding Avoidance in House Mice
    Amy L. Sherborne, Michael D. Thom, Steve Paterson, Francine Jury, William E.R.
    Ollier, Paula Stockley, Robert J. Beynon, and Jane L. Hurst. Curr Biol. 2007 December 04; 17(23): 2061–2066. doi: 10.1016/j.cub.2007.10.041

  3. blue milk

    LOVE the title of this post!

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  5. Level Best

    This is a new wrinkle in the “partnering for pay” game, and it sounds REALLY iffy to me. Fun to consider, though.

  6. MissPrism

    And their logo’s wrong, ‘cos the helix should have minor and major grooves.

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