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		<title>By: Jim Beam Ad Remakes Even Worse Than Originals : The Curvature</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-117715</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Beam Ad Remakes Even Worse Than Originals : The Curvature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You might have seen the extremely offensive and sexist Australian Jim Beam ad series last year at Hoyden About Town. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-53161</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myriam, Malcolm&#039;s first comment was let through and not especially bothered with.  He then submitted a troll contribution to another blog that Lauredhel admins, and only then was he labelled a troll (i.e. after doing something very obviously trollish).

It&#039;s simply not worth engaging with someone seriously after they&#039;ve outed themselves as just another troll.  It only encourages them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myriam, Malcolm&#8217;s first comment was let through and not especially bothered with.  He then submitted a troll contribution to another blog that Lauredhel admins, and only then was he labelled a troll (i.e. after doing something very obviously trollish).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply not worth engaging with someone seriously after they&#8217;ve outed themselves as just another troll.  It only encourages them.</p>
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		<title>By: fuckpoliteness</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-53076</link>
		<dc:creator>fuckpoliteness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is &#039;you&#039;ve clearly never watched SatC&#039; an ad hominem attack?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;fuckpolitenesss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fuckpoliteness.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/just-when-i-thought-i-had-nothing-to-write-about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just when I thought I had nothing to write about…&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is &#8216;you&#8217;ve clearly never watched SatC&#8217; an ad hominem attack?</p>
<p><abbr><em>fuckpolitenesss last blog post..<a href="http://fuckpoliteness.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/just-when-i-thought-i-had-nothing-to-write-about/" rel="nofollow">Just when I thought I had nothing to write about…</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-53034</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it should have been dealt with differently.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Myriam, you&#039;re right here; answer his comment however you like, within the bounds of our Comments Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it should have been dealt with differently.</p></blockquote>
<p>Myriam, you&#8217;re right here; answer his comment however you like, within the bounds of our Comments Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Myriam</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-53031</link>
		<dc:creator>Myriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while i agree that the ads perpetuate a terrible view of women in our society, i disagree with how this discussion seems to have jumped on everyone who&#039;s posed a different opinion. i think that&#039;s what melanie meant when she said &quot;you are what&#039;s wrong with society&quot;. rather, not engaging with someones arguments is what&#039;s wrong with society. this isn&#039;t a mistake i believe you habitually make, 

maybe a discussion of either this is the male equivalent of &#039;sex and the city&#039; (which i don&#039;t think it is), rather than ad hominum (&#039;you&#039;ve clearly never watched sex and the city&#039; etc.) attacks are the more noble option. i don&#039;t think malcolm&#039;s comment deserved the response it did. he raised a point, it should have been dealt with differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while i agree that the ads perpetuate a terrible view of women in our society, i disagree with how this discussion seems to have jumped on everyone who&#8217;s posed a different opinion. i think that&#8217;s what melanie meant when she said &#8220;you are what&#8217;s wrong with society&#8221;. rather, not engaging with someones arguments is what&#8217;s wrong with society. this isn&#8217;t a mistake i believe you habitually make, </p>
<p>maybe a discussion of either this is the male equivalent of &#8217;sex and the city&#8217; (which i don&#8217;t think it is), rather than ad hominum (&#8216;you&#8217;ve clearly never watched sex and the city&#8217; etc.) attacks are the more noble option. i don&#8217;t think malcolm&#8217;s comment deserved the response it did. he raised a point, it should have been dealt with differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Down Under Feminist Carnival: September 08 Edition &#171; blue milk</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-47650</link>
		<dc:creator>Down Under Feminist Carnival: September 08 Edition &#171; blue milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is tired of newspaper columnists and their editors being so unskeptical of their own opinions. Hoyden About Town finds a viral advertising campaign for Jim Beam is as puerile and mean-spirited as you might [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is tired of newspaper columnists and their editors being so unskeptical of their own opinions. Hoyden About Town finds a viral advertising campaign for Jim Beam is as puerile and mean-spirited as you might [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-47447</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whts th mttr wth ll y hr bshpg fmnz dyks? fl srr fr y ll bcs bvsl yr stpd, s lt m xpln t y hw ths wrks. Prtt wmn mk mn b prdcts lk Jm Bm, gl wmn (mch lk yrslvs) mk mn drnk Jm Bm. Th thng dnt ndrstnd s wh d y cr? n ns pttng gn t yr hd nd frcng y t b th prdct s th clsst cn fthm s tht y lzzs r hvng yt nthr btch stb t mn. Gt lf

&lt;em&gt;[Disemvowelled. ~L]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whts th mttr wth ll y hr bshpg fmnz dyks? fl srr fr y ll bcs bvsl yr stpd, s lt m xpln t y hw ths wrks. Prtt wmn mk mn b prdcts lk Jm Bm, gl wmn (mch lk yrslvs) mk mn drnk Jm Bm. Th thng dnt ndrstnd s wh d y cr? n ns pttng gn t yr hd nd frcng y t b th prdct s th clsst cn fthm s tht y lzzs r hvng yt nthr btch stb t mn. Gt lf</p>
<p><em>[Disemvowelled. ~L]</em></p>
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		<title>By: fuckpoliteness</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080807.2053/jim-beam-demonstrates-just-how-much-men-want-to-hate-us/comment-page-1/#comment-45886</link>
		<dc:creator>fuckpoliteness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*You are what is wrong with society*

Yes, there *is* a real wave of critical engagement with the media, an epidemic of feminists saying &#039;I don&#039;t think that stalking is funny&#039; and it&#039;s causing *all kinds* of social evils...like...like...like...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*You are what is wrong with society*</p>
<p>Yes, there *is* a real wave of critical engagement with the media, an epidemic of feminists saying &#8216;I don&#8217;t think that stalking is funny&#8217; and it&#8217;s causing *all kinds* of social evils&#8230;like&#8230;like&#8230;like&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with the ads, I find them very amusing.
I think people need to lighten up, you are what is wrong with society, not the ads

&lt;em&gt;&lt;small&gt;[Mod note: I&#039;m just gonna keep on publishing these little Bingo douchewhimsies from time to time, if no one objects, so long as they&#039;re not personally abusive to anyone but me. Just as a reminder as to how prevalent and empty-headed this particular variety of plonker is. As if any of us needed such a thing. To the OP: I recommend a squiz at our comments policy, and more than a squiz at Finally A Feminism 101 Blog.  ~L]&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/small&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with the ads, I find them very amusing.<br />
I think people need to lighten up, you are what is wrong with society, not the ads</p>
<p><em><small>[Mod note: I'm just gonna keep on publishing these little Bingo douchewhimsies from time to time, if no one objects, so long as they're not personally abusive to anyone but me. Just as a reminder as to how prevalent and empty-headed this particular variety of plonker is. As if any of us needed such a thing. To the OP: I recommend a squiz at our comments policy, and more than a squiz at Finally A Feminism 101 Blog.  ~L]</small></em></p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve never actually watched SatC, have you Malcolm?

Anyway, toodle-oo. I imagine you&#039;re very busy saving starving children. Thanks for giving us some of your precious time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve never actually watched SatC, have you Malcolm?</p>
<p>Anyway, toodle-oo. I imagine you&#8217;re very busy saving starving children. Thanks for giving us some of your precious time.</p>
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