Comments on: Sarah Palin feminism watch #3: the RNC and the “girls in between” http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/ This *is* my soft, feminine side. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:00:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: 5th Down Under Feminists Carnival « HellOnHairyLegs http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-53954 5th Down Under Feminists Carnival « HellOnHairyLegs Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:05:43 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-53954 [...] reveals the inherent sexism in the Republican campaign (Sexism Watch Part One and Two) and is disgusted by the US Republican Party feud against UN conventions for the rights of women [...] [...] reveals the inherent sexism in the Republican campaign (Sexism Watch Part One and Two) and is disgusted by the US Republican Party feud against UN conventions for the rights of women [...]

]]> By: More Devine Bullshit « Fuck Politeness http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48238 More Devine Bullshit « Fuck Politeness Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:51:36 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48238 [...] left more generally, see posts and comment threads here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here*…ok, you get the point right? Cos I’m going crosseyed. The point is there are many many [...] [...] left more generally, see posts and comment threads here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here*…ok, you get the point right? Cos I’m going crosseyed. The point is there are many many [...]

]]> By: Amanda http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48229 Amanda Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:14:10 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48229 I wish you could vote too, cozzy ... but not in freakin' ARIZONA which is McSame's home turf. Y'all move to a swing state dammit! I wish you could vote too, cozzy … but not in freakin’ ARIZONA which is McSame’s home turf. Y’all move to a swing state dammit!

]]> By: coz http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48206 coz Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:41:41 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48206 Glad to see Miranda Devine on SMH online just loves her...*gag* She is a scary god botherer and of course she doesn't support women. It is nice to see in her anti choice/abstinance only heart she totally "supports" Bristol's choice to keep the baby. Pity that won't extend to everyone else if she gets in. (i have that 'trust Bristols paints, sure can' ad stuck in my head and it won't get out...agghhh) Wish I could vote...dammit. Glad to see Miranda Devine on SMH online just loves her…*gag*
She is a scary god botherer and of course she doesn’t support women.
It is nice to see in her anti choice/abstinance only heart she totally “supports” Bristol’s choice to keep the baby. Pity that won’t extend to everyone else if she gets in.
(i have that ‘trust Bristols paints, sure can’ ad stuck in my head and it won’t get out…agghhh)
Wish I could vote…dammit.

]]> By: polerin http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48203 polerin Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:03:02 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48203 Lauredhel, I definitely agree about the fact that her choice of subjects gives very little evidence that she cares about feminist topics other than as lip service. Not to mention that basically her entire speech was one long attack on the dems. Apparently her daughters futures aren't important enough to take a substantial pause from that. Lauredhel, I definitely agree about the fact that her choice of subjects gives very little evidence that she cares about feminist topics other than as lip service. Not to mention that basically her entire speech was one long attack on the dems. Apparently her daughters futures aren’t important enough to take a substantial pause from that.

]]> By: Republican sexism watch: Sarah Palin gives us no evidence that she values girls at Hoyden About Town http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48185 Republican sexism watch: Sarah Palin gives us no evidence that she values girls at Hoyden About Town Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:15:06 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48185 [...] Update 4 September 2008: I’ve taken a look at Palin’s speech at the Republican National Convention with this in mind: “Sarah Palin feminism watch #3: the RNC and the “girls in between””. [...] [...] Update 4 September 2008: I’ve taken a look at Palin’s speech at the Republican National Convention with this in mind: “Sarah Palin feminism watch #3: the RNC and the “girls in between””. [...]

]]> By: Rebekka http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48180 Rebekka Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:35:48 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48180 PS have never seen it referred to as anything other than Down's, sorry. But if someone's wrong about something like that, you might want to perhaps offer a link, rather than just the correct term, which I had no idea was the correct term. PS have never seen it referred to as anything other than Down’s, sorry. But if someone’s wrong about something like that, you might want to perhaps offer a link, rather than just the correct term, which I had no idea was the correct term.

]]> By: Rebekka http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48179 Rebekka Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:19:21 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48179 I was neither suggesting it should be a prerequisite, nor am I suggesting a lack of personal experience is an excuse for a previous abysmal record, but I do think a personal experience can and does change perspective, and her saying she will be an advocate shouldn't be dismissed out-of-hand. And I wouldn't suggest that someone else in your family having a child with a disability means you have the same sort of experience - I'm pretty sure my sister-in-law, with two disabled children, would say her perspective is a lot more personal than mine - she's living it day-to-day, which I, no matter how much I love my nieces and nephew, am not. So I would still say it's a change of perspective. I was neither suggesting it should be a prerequisite, nor am I suggesting a lack of personal experience is an excuse for a previous abysmal record, but I do think a personal experience can and does change perspective, and her saying she will be an advocate shouldn’t be dismissed out-of-hand.

And I wouldn’t suggest that someone else in your family having a child with a disability means you have the same sort of experience – I’m pretty sure my sister-in-law, with two disabled children, would say her perspective is a lot more personal than mine – she’s living it day-to-day, which I, no matter how much I love my nieces and nephew, am not.

So I would still say it’s a change of perspective.

]]> By: Amanda http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48177 Amanda Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:09:32 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48177 On CNN they interviewed Palin's sister and bro-in-law in Alaska, said they have a "child with special needs" themselves and specifically pointed out she knew about those issues (and the "special love"!) but before she had Trig. So change of perspective is not only a dodgy argument but ... can't even be made. On the upside and shallow-ly, Piper was totally adorable with the baby. (Prob has a lot of practice given how quickly dad passed the baby off on her.) On CNN they interviewed Palin’s sister and bro-in-law in Alaska, said they have a “child with special needs” themselves and specifically pointed out she knew about those issues (and the “special love”!) but before she had Trig. So change of perspective is not only a dodgy argument but … can’t even be made.

On the upside and shallow-ly, Piper was totally adorable with the baby. (Prob has a lot of practice given how quickly dad passed the baby off on her.)

]]> By: Lauredhel http://hoydenabouttown.com/20080904.2162/sarah-palin-feminism-watch-3-the-republican-national-convention-vp-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48175 Lauredhel Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:56:24 +0000 http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2162#comment-48175 The move away from using possessives for eponymous syndromes has been going on for over thirty years now. The argument against the possessive is that the (usually dead) white medico who happened to write down the symptoms and become hailed as supposedly the "first" to describe the disorder neither owns the syndrome nor has it. I confess to strong leanings toward that point of view, though old habits can die hard. Totally agree about the series of platitudes. The move away from using possessives for eponymous syndromes has been going on for over thirty years now. The argument against the possessive is that the (usually dead) white medico who happened to write down the symptoms and become hailed as supposedly the “first” to describe the disorder neither owns the syndrome nor has it. I confess to strong leanings toward that point of view, though old habits can die hard.

Totally agree about the series of platitudes.

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