Comments on: “Your only chance to get inside her”: disability and that Belgian transplant porn

By: Hgill

Hgill — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:27:54 +0000

I couldn’t agree more with fuckpolitenes’s last comment- v. true- when feminists ( and I love it how people ALWAYS lumpenize and homogenize feminists) say anything it is ALWAYS radical, ‘PC’, and contaminated by their misandry and ‘indoctrinated’ way of viewing the world. And the person complaining about feminism is always politically neutral and super-human in their ability to remove themselves from their contexts, and become ‘objective’ ( do people not realise that this is a mythical state that does not exist?), thus exempting them from criticism.
I find the necrophilic aspect of the ad quite interesting, seeing as it has so much investment in creating a heteronormative scene- passive female, phallic penetration, theme of rape fantasy, sexy lingerie. It seems like you have a perfect heterosexual scene in place, but then they bring in this concept of death, of the MALE dying ( a dominant reading) , of the male body being PENETRATED in order for his organ to be removed, and the scene becomes profoundly queered. The blurb ” Becoming a donor is the only way you will probably get inside her” can be read as mocking the male ego, and mocking the idea that the ego has so much investment in the capacity to score heterosexually?
I think the ad, while differing from more mainstream donation campaigns due to the sex aspect, has many similarities. You have the eugenicist bent ( I live in Australia, and not once have I seen a black person/”ugly” person in the advertisements for blood donation). You have the homophobic bent ( a dominant reading of the ad would suggest heterosexual sex). And you have the nationalist bent- the white woman with blonde hair waiting for the heroic male to sacrifice himself for the perpetuation of the body politic.
Overall though I agree with what has already been said, with regards to how disgusting it is to dress a potentially very ill woman up in underwear and high heels, and use her sexiness ( and not her humanity or suffering) as the reason she deserves a transplant.

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[...] on a regular basis to keep the sassiness up. With that in mind, Hoyden About Town presents “Your only chance to get inside her”: disability and that Belgian transplant porn; yet another bloody ad campaign that tells young women that if they go around acting like drunken [...]

By: Lauredhel

Lauredhel — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:08:04 +0000

Also, it would appear that they don’t want straight women or gay men to be organ donors.

Well, they won’t take blood donations from gay men under any circumstances … ew ew unclean!

By: Xerophyte

Xerophyte — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:45:21 +0000

Also, it would appear that they don’t want straight women or gay men to be organ donors.

Of course, they obviously don’t want the help of straight men or lesbian women who respect women, but the deliberate and complete exclusion of women and gay men from the apparent pool of people they want to donate organs is pretty confusing, given the good record both groups generally have when it comes to involvement in charities and human rights organizing. (Not to mention the sheer number of straight women and gay men in the world….I mean honestly, wouldn’t their money have been better spent on an ad targeting ALL potential organ donors, rather than a few selfish straight dudes who really don’t give a fuck about anybody else?)

Also, it’s not like you have a say in where your organs go after you’re dead. For all the ad’s targeted Selfish Straight Dude knows, his organs could end up in some “nasty” fat guy — and oh noes, what if he’s a nasty fat gay guy, then it’s totally like you’re having sex with a gay dude after you’re dead! Oh, the huuuuuumanity!!!! (Which is another problem raised by this ad — so ugly women don’t deserve organ transplants, and apparently no men do, either. But of course the misogynist trolls fail to see that bit of OMG MISANDRY IT’S EVERYWHERE!!!! Because being an MRA troll is really not about helping men, it’s about hurting women, otherwise they’d be all over this like germs in an elementary school.)

By: blue milk

blue milk — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:15:38 +0000

This ad is disturbing because it appears no subject matter -no matter how delicate, no matter how ‘life and death’ – is off-limits for pornification.

By: Helen

Helen — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:44:19 +0000

(Slightly O/T but not totally) That Zuky post is in my top three of best ever.

Mary, if you don’t find “get inside her” offensive, that’s up to you, but I think it’s highly offensive and I’m a devotee of bad-taste comedy like League of Gentlemen etc.

By: fuckpoliteness

fuckpoliteness — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:04:51 +0000

It’s funny how it’s “whining” when feminists do it, but whining about feminist whining and how oppressive, unneccessary and fun-spoiling it is apparently magically not whining. Actually. It’s not funny at all. It’s boring.

By: Lauredhel

Lauredhel — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:48:34 +0000

Mary, accusations of "whining" and "fucking sensitivity" (even with the coy asterisk) and "political correctness" reveal a lot more about you than about your targets. Go read this "The Greatest Cliché: The Unexamined Propaganda of "Political Correctness"", please, and this, and this, and read our comments guidelines in full before re-commenting.

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:06:54 +0000

Wow…I’m a woman, and I’m really not THAT offended, I think that the responses to this ad listed above and in the article show a common problematic perception about feminism, that we’re all too f*ing sensitive, and read into things sometimes even a bit too far because inside there are pain and feelings of insecurity.
I’m a strong woman, and I consider myself a feminist (why wouldn’t I) BUT there is being real and pointing out irony and poor taste, and there is going overboard and being overly whiny and PC. I think this article jumps to a conclusion and so have many of you that have jumped on the bandwagon. Lighten up, it would do us all some good!

By: amandaw

amandaw — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:03:44 +0000

“But if this results in more young males ticking the organ donor box, I’m a pragmatist and I’d say its a good thing.”

What if it also results in more young males seeing women as a means to their ends, rather than as persons in themselves — leading to more domestic violence, sexual assault and intimate murders?

Your visibility seems to be limited to arm’s reach, here. You can’t see much outside your own ends. Which is the human condition, of course, but people are trying to prod you here to look beyond that.