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	<title>Comments on: AFA selling burning-cross Christmas decoration</title>
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		<title>By: Deus Ex Macintosh</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20081118.2660/afa-selling-burning-cross-christmas-decoration/comment-page-1/#comment-68638</link>
		<dc:creator>Deus Ex Macintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 22:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just Hoydenizens made this connection, they just got a mention on The Daily Show.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Deus Ex Macintosh&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://sundayfunnies.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/unwarranted-intrusion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Unwarranted Intrusion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just Hoydenizens made this connection, they just got a mention on The Daily Show.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Deus Ex Macintosh&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://sundayfunnies.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/unwarranted-intrusion/" rel="nofollow">Unwarranted Intrusion</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Titanium Dragon</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20081118.2660/afa-selling-burning-cross-christmas-decoration/comment-page-1/#comment-68619</link>
		<dc:creator>Titanium Dragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RPG, the cross ISN&#039;T a uniquely Christian symbol. The cross is actually a pretty common symbol. Ever heard of an Ankh? Odin&#039;s cross?

The problem with this cross is its design. There&#039;s a reason cross decorations like this have their lights along their sides, rather than sticking out. The color scheme is bad too - if it was multicolored, like christmas tree lights, it wouldn&#039;t be a problem. As-is though, its pretty much like putting out a sign saying &quot;I&#039;m a part of the KKK!&quot;

Then again, the difference between the AFA and the KKK isn&#039;t all that great; they&#039;re pretty much the same sort of people with rather similar ideologies. They just emphasize different parts of &quot;white Christian&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPG, the cross ISN&#8217;T a uniquely Christian symbol. The cross is actually a pretty common symbol. Ever heard of an Ankh? Odin&#8217;s cross?</p>
<p>The problem with this cross is its design. There&#8217;s a reason cross decorations like this have their lights along their sides, rather than sticking out. The color scheme is bad too &#8211; if it was multicolored, like christmas tree lights, it wouldn&#8217;t be a problem. As-is though, its pretty much like putting out a sign saying &#8220;I&#8217;m a part of the KKK!&#8221;</p>
<p>Then again, the difference between the AFA and the KKK isn&#8217;t all that great; they&#8217;re pretty much the same sort of people with rather similar ideologies. They just emphasize different parts of &#8220;white Christian&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people like this have to live in Mississippi?  At this rate, everyone will think we&#039;re all like this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people like this have to live in Mississippi?  At this rate, everyone will think we&#8217;re all like this!</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Speechless.</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20081118.2660/afa-selling-burning-cross-christmas-decoration/comment-page-1/#comment-64908</link>
		<dc:creator>Feminist Law Professors &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Speechless.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20081118.2660/afa-selling-burning-cross-christmas-decoration/comment-page-1/#comment-64692</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lit crosses on front lawns evoke the KKK. No matter it&#039;s historical or religious connotations that is what they bring to mind and it is inappropriate.   To put this in perspective, how about if it were not a cross lets say it was a swastika..we all know that is the symbol of light, but its meaning has been so perverted that such a suggestion would immediately be attacked.  Having a burning cross on your lawn evokes the same sort of thing.
Expressing Christian belief with a manger scene would have gotten the message across without offending or harming anyone, but then that was not the intent was it?  They could even have put a Christ like figure on the cross to diffuse the whole burning KKK symbol but they did not.  It is exactly what it looks like, a symbol of racism and terror.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Renee&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.womanist-musings.com/2008/11/blogging-awards.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogging Awards&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lit crosses on front lawns evoke the KKK. No matter it&#8217;s historical or religious connotations that is what they bring to mind and it is inappropriate.   To put this in perspective, how about if it were not a cross lets say it was a swastika..we all know that is the symbol of light, but its meaning has been so perverted that such a suggestion would immediately be attacked.  Having a burning cross on your lawn evokes the same sort of thing.<br />
Expressing Christian belief with a manger scene would have gotten the message across without offending or harming anyone, but then that was not the intent was it?  They could even have put a Christ like figure on the cross to diffuse the whole burning KKK symbol but they did not.  It is exactly what it looks like, a symbol of racism and terror.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Renee&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://www.womanist-musings.com/2008/11/blogging-awards.html" rel="nofollow">Blogging Awards</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20081118.2660/afa-selling-burning-cross-christmas-decoration/comment-page-1/#comment-64674</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2660#comment-64649&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Kim&lt;/a&gt;:

Kim, is this particular cross with the burning candle-globe effect necessarily a blatant intimidatory attempt to evoke an image with a particularly repugnant racist terror campaign history?  Nope, not necessarily.

Is it, at the very least, an insensitive choice of an image with a particularly repugnant racist terror campaign history? You betcha, especially coming from an organisation based in Mississippi.

There are plenty of other ways to illuminate a cross that don&#039;t make it look like the KKK came to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/?p=2660#comment-64649" rel="nofollow"> Kim</a>:</p>
<p>Kim, is this particular cross with the burning candle-globe effect necessarily a blatant intimidatory attempt to evoke an image with a particularly repugnant racist terror campaign history?  Nope, not necessarily.</p>
<p>Is it, at the very least, an insensitive choice of an image with a particularly repugnant racist terror campaign history? You betcha, especially coming from an organisation based in Mississippi.</p>
<p>There are plenty of other ways to illuminate a cross that don&#8217;t make it look like the KKK came to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 17:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes Christmas lights are just that....Christmas lights. 

Of course it is lit up.  ;)

This was a long bow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes Christmas lights are just that&#8230;.Christmas lights. </p>
<p>Of course it is lit up.  ;)</p>
<p>This was a long bow.</p>
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		<title>By: rpg</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20081118.2660/afa-selling-burning-cross-christmas-decoration/comment-page-1/#comment-64533</link>
		<dc:creator>rpg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I just repeated (half) of Beppie&#039;s experiment. Up high on the list was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=24622&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;piece&lt;/a&gt; by a Baptist pastor from two years ago. He puts a lit cross in his yard, but one year he

&lt;blockquote&gt;cloaked the cross entirely in red lights. It was my attempt to emphasize that the blood of Jesus was shed on the cross to pay for mankind’s sin. A visitor to our home commented that she thought it looked like the flaming cross of the Ku Klux Klan. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I just repeated (half) of Beppie&#8217;s experiment. Up high on the list was a <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=24622" rel="nofollow">piece</a> by a Baptist pastor from two years ago. He puts a lit cross in his yard, but one year he</p>
<blockquote><p>cloaked the cross entirely in red lights. It was my attempt to emphasize that the blood of Jesus was shed on the cross to pay for mankind’s sin. A visitor to our home commented that she thought it looked like the flaming cross of the Ku Klux Klan. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: rpg</title>
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		<dc:creator>rpg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I can live with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I can live with that.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and dammit, I didn&#039;t include the image I wanted to illustrate the point:  I don&#039;t think anyone would object if it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://lordscreationsphotos.com/Large_Action/ChristmasCross.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this cross&lt;/a&gt;, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and dammit, I didn&#8217;t include the image I wanted to illustrate the point:  I don&#8217;t think anyone would object if it was <a href="http://lordscreationsphotos.com/Large_Action/ChristmasCross.html" rel="nofollow">this cross</a>, for instance.</p>
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