Comments on: Etymology 101

By: tigtog

tigtog — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 02:52:02 +0000

I’ll also point out that acts which are not damaging do not require forgiveness, so saying that an act is forgivable is not a free pass.

By: tigtog

tigtog — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:56:19 +0000

There you go, making another leap. Who is it exactly who says that accurately labelling a behaviour as racist/misogynist/homophobic is an automatic condemnation?

Racist/misogynist/homophobic behaviours that are insulting, abusive, discriminatory or otherwise unjust deserve condemnation, simply being afraid due to racist/misogynist/homophobic thoughts does not.

By: Desipis

Desipis — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:46:38 +0000

It may be understandable, it may even be forgiveable by the ethnic group in question in certain circumstances of great trauma, but it’s still racist.

I’m not arguing it’s not racist. I’m saying if you’re going to claim that some understandable, forgivable acts are racist, then being racist cannot mean automatic condemnation.

Just like killing people is generally bad, you can’t automatically condemn a killer without knowing the circumstances because there’s a chance it might have been in self defense.

By: tigtog

tigtog — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:26:28 +0000

Dem #25

And don’t get me started on ‘decimate’…

That one drives me spare as well!

By: tigtog

tigtog — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:22:24 +0000

Tosh and piffle, that’s not my argument at all. Just like any other ethnic group, Chinese people run the gamut of nasty and nice. Judging all members of any ethnic group by a bad experience with some members of that ethnic group is racism, even if the bad experience was really scary and traumatic.

It may be understandable, it may even be forgiveable by the ethnic group in question in certain circumstances of great trauma, but it’s still racist.

By: Desipis

Desipis — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 01:00:10 +0000

You seem to be arguing that no-one, anywhere has ever had a bad experience with a mob of Chinese people. Or at least those that have are part of an irrelevant minority.

By: tigtog

tigtog — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:53:25 +0000

Now you’re not even making a scintilla of sense. Those in some hypothetical minority you pulled out of thin air?

By: Desipis

Desipis — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:26:17 +0000

So from everyone’s anecdotes about how mobs of Chinese people in their experience are the exact opposite of scary, we get an even stronger indication of just how long that bow was that Desipis was drawing back in #9.

Yeah… those in the minority don’t count.

By: Deus Ex Macintosh

Deus Ex Macintosh — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:08:08 +0000

And don't get me started on 'decimate'... Deus Ex Macintosh's last blog post..Alas, poor Yorick… (you’re fired!)

By: slave2tehtink

slave2tehtink — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:46:13 +0000

Anna @ 15 said:
I cannot, under any circumstances, convince the men in my life that statements like “Oh, I don’t mind gay guys, I just don’t want to work with them becuase they’ll be checking out my ass” is problematic and homophobic because it’s just the way it is, right?

Hearing men say that kind of shit makes me want to froth at the mouth, because I’m all “WELCOME TO MY DAMN WORLD, MAKE YOURSELF AT HOME.” The way they assume all gay men are constantly checking out every straight man says a lot to me about their attitude toward women, and makes me want to throw things.