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Blokes calling out blokes: Tommy on Celebrity Big Brother UK

by Lauredhel on January 20, 2009

in entertainment, gender & feminism

The sixth season of Celebrity Big Brother UK is underway.

Rapper, self-confessed “shit-stirrer”, and supremely annoying fuckknuckle Coolio, who has been engaged in a prolonged campaign of sexual harassment against Ben and Michelle, is the one getting on my wick the most.

In this clip, Coolio and Scottish socialist politician Tommy Sheridan get into it, triggered by Coolio boasting that his children “know the difference between hos, bitches, and women”.

Tommy is not impressed by Coolio’s double-standard sexist bullshit, and he makes his feelings known. I like it that he’s getting noticeably upset – he’s not distanced from the issue, and he’s not afraid to get visibly emotional about it. Props, Tommy.

Not so many props for acting like Coolio’s best buddy ten minutes later, but I guess when you’re locked up together for weeks on end, certain survival skills are necessary.

LaToya Jackson’s yawn while Coolio is mouthing off is also rather delicious.

Video and transcript below the cut.

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Transcript:

The housemates are sitting around the loungeroom. Coolio is standing and holding forth, energetically, in a blue T-shirt with a cigarette behind his ear.

Coolio: I talk a lot o’ bullshit in here. My children know the difference between hos, bitches, and women.

[Cut to Tommy sitting on the floor, wearing a 'football is working class ballet' T shirt and an incredulous look.]

LaToya [on a couch in a pink tracksuit and peaked cap]: OK, Coolio, for those of us who don’t know – what’s the difference?

[Laughter.]

Michelle: Great question, LaToya.

Tommy: I would much prefer, Coolio, if you said, “My children know that they shouldn’t refer to women as hos or bitches.” Rather than telling us that they know the difference, Cause I’m not really sure there is a difference.

Coolio [interrupting]: You gotta understand, you gotta understand, man.

Tommy: They’re all women.

Coolio: You gotta understand how I grew up, man.

[Ulrika, chewing, gives a dubious look. Verne sits back in his scooter, as if preparing for a show.]

Coolio [sitting now]: “I am the classic example of trial and error. I learned that – I learned about – man, you don’t want to go to jail, by going to jail. I learned that you don’t want to get shot, by getting shot.

[Michelle sits open-mouthed. Ben watches quietly.]

Coolio: One time man, I was getting shot at with a .38 at a party in [?]town. And I swear to God, I heard the bullets like this. [Coolio stands up, swishes his hands past himself making swishing noises.] All around me.

[LaToya yawns.]

Coolio: And the reason why the dude started shootin’? He had a house party. His mother got drunk and started dancing nasty with one of the homeboys. She was like, his momma was in the party like [swivels hips, holding onto the back of a chair] And the homie was all this [?] ass like this [pelvis thrusting movements, laughs], and he got mad and said, “Blaaargh! You all got to go! Pow pow pow! [striding around, gun-shooting motions] He just started shootin’. His momma [?] got drunk! Nobody make his momma start actin’ like a HO!

Tommy: Pish! She didn’t act like a “ho”. She didn’t act like a “ho” at all.

Coolio: She was! She got drunk!

Tommy: She was enjoying herself with the dancing.

Coolio: She forty, forty years old.

[people start shouting, Coolio protests]

Ulrika [sarcastically]: Oh, that’s really old! She should be locked up!

Tommy: So what? Was it illegal? Was it illegal? Was she doing something illegal? Was she doing something illegal? No.

Terry: Bet no-one went to his next party, did they? [laughter]

Tommy: Pish.

Coolio: Verne. If somebody’s momma come out, and started dancing like this, [pelvic thrusts], if she acting like a ho –

Tommy: So that means every dancer is a “ho”, then? Is that what you’re saying? Or is it just certain women that are hos?

Coolio: No, no! You’re not supposed to be at your son’s party –

Tommy: Oh, it was her son’s.

Coolio [as if he's finally being understood]: Yes, it was her son’s party!

Tommy: So it’s not hers.

Coolio: Yeah! It was her house!

Tommy: Right.

Coolio: She was disrespecting her own house, and her son!

[Tommy looks pissed off.]

Verne: Tommy, Tommy, it’s a different atmosphere though.

Coolio: So you feel me, it’s, it’s, I’m not saying it – I not be saying stuff like that, I’m not talking about regular women. I’m talking about loose –

[Tommy laughs derisively]

Coolio: I’m talking about loose women! I’m talking about –

Tommy: FUCK OFF! What is “loose”?

Coolio: I’m talkin’ about women that come into a party, I’m talking about women that come in the club in they miniskirt and they –

Tommy: So what?

Coolio: In their miniskirt like a headband.

LaToya: But Coolio –

Tommy: So what? Are they difference inside? Are they different inside from every other woman? Is that what you’re saying?

Coolio: OK, OK, I’ll put it to you like this. I’ll be in the club, and I’ll have females come up to me and be like, [stands up, swings hips, husky high pitched voice] “What’s up Coolio? How you doin’?”

Terry: And you never ever took advantage of that?

Coolio: Oh hell yeah! You have to see it.

Tommy: I don’t need to see it, ferchrissake. It seems that you’re alright, cause you’re the guy. It’s ok for you to do it, but she’s a “ho”.

Coolio: Y’all just don’t understand, man. [to someone else - ?Verne:] You understand what I’m talking about.

[Tommy laughs, hand on forehead, and falls over backwards.]

~~~

[No sneering "Why do you watch that shit? I'm way too good for that" comments please. Really. It's tedious and irksome. Find something else to do, eh?]

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{ 17 comments }

1
QoT January 20, 2009 at 8:57 am

Oh God it’s such beautifully textbook misogyny. Women I define as “hos” are hos, so it’s okay for me to take sexual advantage, unless they’re undesirable in which case they’re the wrong kind of “hos”.

I’m just shattered that we didn’t get to hear his no doubt stunning definition of “bitches”. I’m going with the classic, “women who sleep with everyone except you”.

2
lala January 20, 2009 at 9:23 am

I really don’t care if it’s gratuitous cookie-bestowel,* I love and adore people like Tommy. Anyone who bravely stands up for an oppressed group, whether or not they are a member of it, is a hero in my book.

*a wonderful combination of words, by the way, lauredhel.

3
Deus Ex Macintosh January 20, 2009 at 10:12 am

Pish, indeed Tommy. I particularly like the bit:

Coolio: You gotta understand how I grew up, man.

To a Scottish Socialist MSP representing a tough ward in GLASGOW!!! Uh, Mr Coolio sir, he probably has a better idea than you do but in true Scottish style doesn’t waste time whining about it for hours.

I happily claim the label of ‘bitch’. I was a bitch long before I was old enough to be a ‘ho’.

Deus Ex Macintosh’s last blog post..Water Wings take on a whole new meaning

4
Esme January 20, 2009 at 1:29 pm

Nothing wrong with the occasional cookie.

Especially when the cookie bestowing can warm our hearts.

5
Llencelyn January 20, 2009 at 1:45 pm

That was so great to see. On TV!

*Llencelyn swoons, and a cookie falls out of her pocket into Tommy’s lap*

6
Lauredhel January 20, 2009 at 5:11 pm

I think I need to start saying “Pish!” more often.

Pish! Tosh! Bollocks!

7
WildlyParenthetical January 20, 2009 at 5:42 pm

Aww… and a Scottish accent an’ all…

8
tigtog January 20, 2009 at 6:49 pm

Pish! Tosh! Bollocks!

Feck! Arse!

/Father Ted reference

9
Michelle January 20, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Hey Coolio actually considers some women “women”, I’m impressed. (yes, that’s sarcasm) Count me in for another pish :)

10
Fine January 20, 2009 at 10:33 pm

I love LaToya yawning. You can see she’s had to put with this bullshit many times before. I’m glad no-one there seems very impressed with the fuckwit’s analysis.

11
Lauredhel January 20, 2009 at 11:24 pm

I have a new-found respect for LaToya after watching the series so far. She has endured rather a lot of crap in her life, and has come through it with a strange sort of fragile strength and honesty. On the first day, she and Tina discussed their experiences of domestic violence quite openly with each other – not the sort of thing I expected to see at all.

Ulrika is also rather delightful, an unapologetic F-word using feminist who speaks up whenever she feels moved to it.

12
SKM January 22, 2009 at 5:49 am

Bonus fuckknuckle points for referring to women as “females”. I haaaaaate that!

13
The Amazing Kim January 22, 2009 at 10:16 am

Pish! Tosh! Bollocks! Feck! Arse!

Piffle! Balderdash! Fiddlesticks! Humph! I say! Fooey!

14
Lauredhel January 24, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Just posting a note here, as I wait for a pending comment to be shortened: As readers will know who read the Wikipedia article I linked to in paragraph two, Tommy has not been a paragon of feminism throughout his life, and there is still possible pending legal action involved around his defamation suit with the News of the World.

This blog post is meant to highlight and discuss this particular incidence of behaviour. It is centred around the subject of Blokes Calling Out Blokes (and, to a lesser extent, feminism/sexism dynamics on BBUK), not around the subject of Tommy Sheridan’s life story and imbroglios. I’d be more than happy to publish links to discussions of the latter for those who wish to follow up that side of things, but would like to keep the conversation on this thread closer to topic. Thanks.

15
Lauredhel January 24, 2009 at 3:40 pm

Well, I am just as thrilled as a big thrilled thing!

SPOILER WARNING

The winner of CBB UK this year is …

SPOILER WARNING, highlight to show (if my markup works)

Ulrika!

She’s the only person on this series, as far as I know, who ever said ‘I’m a feminist’. And I luff her for it.

16
Lynsey January 28, 2009 at 10:13 pm

Sorry if you found my comment inappropriate Lauredhel; this is your space and I apologise.

I just don’t want people to be hoodwinked by his public persona.

And just as an update, Tommy and his wife have been indicted on charges of perjury and of trying to get other people to commit perjury, and will go on trial this year.

I apologise if my comment was hot headed, but my mother was a witness in his original defamation action, and will be called as a witness again in the perjury trial, and was one of the women decried as witches and feminist conspirators.

17
Lynsey January 28, 2009 at 10:22 pm

Oh, and Ulrika winning was, well, ultimate win!

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