Not so wordless Wednesday

by Lauredhel on February 26, 2009

in education, gender & feminism, language

fridgemagic

[Via Mothers for Women's Lib.]

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Description: Two sets of fridge magnet words, one pink and labelled “Magnetic Girls Talk”, one blue and labelled “Magnetic Boys Talk”. The “Girls words include:

clothes, hairband, heart, love, sparkle, perfume, beads, necklace, furry, lipstick, ribbon, handbag, want, glitter, fairies, fluff, candy, flowers, wings, sherbet, bubbles, sweets, pink, make-up, skipping, magic, dancing, ballet, bunnies, rainbow, ladybird, lemonade, stars, sky, shoes, chocolate, doll, party, secret, diary, hair, jewels, princess, queen, tiara, ice-cream, teddy, music, sunshine, birds, butterfly, sugar, angel, diamond, cooking, friends

The “Boys” words include:

boots, glue, monster, scary, bones, racing, moon, helicopter, aeroplane, tractor, money, lorry, wizard, conkers, frogs, sticks, mud, dirt, spiders, snails, stones, bubbles, sweets, flags, magic, pond, string, grass, rugby, bug, dogs, caterpillar, cobweb, worms, dinosaur, dragon, bike, scooter, forest, treasure, climbing, swinging, skeleton, running, ghost, trees, swimming, lawnmower, treehouse, blue, football, chocolate, car

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1
SunlessNick February 26, 2009 at 1:29 am

But I’m sure that’s all down to innate biological differences. Hell, boys’ eyes can’t even see pink, it’s true!

2
Purrdence February 26, 2009 at 1:31 am

wtfpanda?

3
Lauredhel February 26, 2009 at 1:38 am

Hell, boys’ eyes can’t even see pink, it’s true!

Or sparkles! You need two copies of the X-linked glitter-perception gene for it to work.

4
Michelle February 26, 2009 at 2:24 am

They really shouldn’t be encouraging girls to eat sweets, sherbert, candy and sugar you know, they might get fat.. /sarcasm

5
Rebecca February 26, 2009 at 2:34 am

*blinks*
uh. wow…

6
Ali February 26, 2009 at 3:11 am

Dammit.
I’m glad I’m not a kid anymore, I was the tot who would argue with McDonald’s employees to give me the boys kid’s meal because hot wheels were so much cooler than mini Barbies/Cabbage Patch kids.

7
Ali February 26, 2009 at 3:13 am

I have to admit though, I find it funny that the girl’s version has butterfly and the boy’s version has caterpillar.

8
InfamousQBert February 26, 2009 at 3:25 am

i’m all over the “words are not gendered” parade, but the text at the top of the packaging makes me wonder something. do you suppose they actually did some kind of survey of boys and girls and these were the ones that fell out as the Top 100 or whatever? i’m just curious if there was some tiny amount of scientitious “research” behind the choice.

9
mindy February 26, 2009 at 4:04 am

thanks goodness my kids set me straight – I once said something was ‘girly’ to which my boy replied :”mom – boys like glitter and pink too!”

So I could safely buy this talk to them about it throw away the packages-ok recycle- and we could all use all the words!!!

Just wanted to put an once of hope in the discussion…..

10
Ali February 26, 2009 at 4:16 am

“mom – boys like glitter and pink too!”

I heart your son mindy! (and your obviously good parenting)

11
Beppie February 26, 2009 at 4:24 am

Must. resist. urge. to. throw. things.

12
tigtog February 26, 2009 at 7:08 am

13
Mary February 26, 2009 at 8:06 am

InfamousQBert, the National Literacy range they’re referring to is here and seems to be prescribed, as in, it’s words from a syllabus of words that children are supposed to become familiar with. So that’s particularly problematic: complement these core literacy words with these other words your child is supposed to become familiar with!

In addition, as pervasive as gendered toys and media are for children at the moment, teachers and child-carers I know report that girls have not been successfully universally molded into 100% princess mode, I would be really surprised if a rogue dragon or five hadn’t snuck into a girl survery.

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su February 26, 2009 at 8:31 am

@InfamousQBert
It is a bit of a chicken and egg situation because marketing also inculcates some of the very preferences that scientitious (heh) or market research measures.

So I think it could also be seen as a preemptive strike on behalf of marketers to children. Getting the kids to strongly identify with a gendered subset of terms from the get go makes it easier to market your faerie and monster tat to them. Then you don’t have to trouble yourself withthe expense and effort of new product development, you can just shove a skull or a princess on something old and hey presto-instant market.

15
su February 26, 2009 at 8:47 am

My comment crossed with Mary’s there Infamous Q – not pickin’ on ya. Must refresh browser more often and/or type faster.

16
orlando February 26, 2009 at 9:44 am

We have boys and girls WORDS now? Which ones did Shakespeare use?

17
Lynda Hopgood February 26, 2009 at 10:13 am

Shakespeare swung both ways, literarily ;-)

18
Mindy February 26, 2009 at 11:02 am

It’s interesting to look at how many ‘active’ words are included too.

Girls get: skipping, dancing, cooking and ballet.

Boys get: conkers, rugby, scooter, climbing, swinging, running, swimming and football.

Gah.

19
hendo February 26, 2009 at 11:30 am

MONEY???? MONEY??? ONLY BOYS USE MONEY???

Sorry people, that was the one that really made the red mist rise. Oh wait, here it comes again, my apologies…

excuse me wtf girls do not use money and boys do???? why don’t we just marry the girls off at the age of ten???

20
Lauredhel February 26, 2009 at 11:42 am

Hendo: The girls trade in diamonds, tiaras, jewels, candy, shoes, cooking, and love, so they don’t need money!

21
Beppie February 26, 2009 at 11:46 am

So that’s particularly problematic: complement these core literacy words with these other words your child is supposed to become familiar with!

And for a nice dash of irony — they misspell “complement” (“goes well with”) as “compliment” (“a nice thing to say about someone”). Nor do they put an apostrophe at the end of “girls” and “boys” on the respective packages. Improved literacy, my big fat bum.

22
Mindy February 26, 2009 at 11:47 am

I just noticed that apparently boys don’t need friends. Must be too busy doing all those active things with their team mates who obviously are only there because boys have to do active things and since girls don’t, they have to do them together.

23
Danni February 26, 2009 at 12:38 pm

I want to buy some of each, jumble them all up and then give them back out to people.

24
Barb February 26, 2009 at 12:58 pm

At least there`s two things we all agree on: Bubbles and chocolate!

25
Lisa G. February 26, 2009 at 1:28 pm

The only way I would not have a head-explody over this:
If the words ‘boy’ and ‘girl’ were excised from the packages. Or if all of it were combined into a single set without gender ID included.

26
fuckpoliteness February 26, 2009 at 1:34 pm

Yep. And boys don’t need love. And surprisingly, girls don’t need bones.

27
Zoe February 26, 2009 at 2:05 pm

I’d very much like to have a packet of Magnetic Feminist Talk.

28
Mindy February 26, 2009 at 2:09 pm

Hello ladies (first time commenters) in moderation. I can’t work out how to get you out, not sure if I have the right access. Hopefully Tigtog or Lauredhel will be along soon and they can fish you out!

29
huckle February 26, 2009 at 3:55 pm

Wow – those lists are kinda like sex stereotype poetry.

I noticed how girls are not supposed to be interested in the natural world – about 9 girl words describe nature, versus 21 for boys.

30
blue milk February 26, 2009 at 11:44 pm

How nauseating.

31
Anna February 27, 2009 at 3:47 am

They sell feminist magnetic poetry at my local Feminist Bookstore/Sex Shop (I’m a bit of a prude, so I’m constantly in a state of blush when I go in there). I should check out what words they’ve got next time I’m in. :)

32
kate February 27, 2009 at 11:41 am

Zoe – shouldn’t be too hard to produce Magnetic Feminist Talk as Feminists are naturally Magnetic.

33
TimT February 27, 2009 at 12:30 pm

Splendid opportunity for found poetry there:

1)
Sherbert sparkle lipstick clothes!
Fluffy princess heart!
Sunshine! Music! Butterfly!
Glitter sugar FART!

34
TimT February 27, 2009 at 12:30 pm

The 1) indicates I was going to do another poem, but then didn’t….

35
The Amazing Kim February 27, 2009 at 12:45 pm

Or sparkles! You need two copies of the X-linked glitter-perception gene for it to work.

That’s why they can’t see vampires.

36
fuckpoliteness February 27, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Oh Tim! That was beautiful! I particularly loved the emphatic FART, the only kind really.

fuckpoliteness’s last blog post..Is smart the new sexy and other FASCINATING questions! Fuck the Sams, and why I’m gonna be light-on with the posting

37
Helen February 28, 2009 at 9:53 pm

Tim, you always make me do the really whoopy laugh thing at the computer which makes the kids eyeroll.
Tigtog, I love love love that TIGTOG SMASH!!

38
Spilt Milk March 3, 2009 at 10:23 am

That is so very depressing.

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