Comments on: International Women’s day: On being the Groke

By: The Eleventh Down Under Feminists’ Carnival « WhyI’mbitter’s Weblog

Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:26:07 +0000

[...] Another great International Women’s Day post is up over at Hoyden About Town by Helen, International Women’s day: On being the Groke and Podblack has a post the vatican’s thoughts on this day, I Was Liberated By A Washing [...]

By: Helen

Helen — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 07:28:23 +0000

Chris, you might like to think about how some of that is probably just scuttlebutt, too.

By: tigtog

tigtog — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:21:44 +0000

Without knowing whether the GEC at your college does indeed suck or whether it’s just very good at provoking folks to think about what they’d rather not notice, it’s always possible to defend feminism as a philosophy without being required to defend every single person/group/organisation/enterprise that identifies as feminists – people either singly or in groups can always fuck things up, and if they do fuck something up then that shouldn’t reflect on feminism as a whole, although it’s usually used as if it proves some deeply fundamental point.

By: chris

chris — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:57:30 +0000

Before I went to colege I was a much better feminist male then I am now, I mean given the way I was raised it was just a basic part of how I viewed the world. Science is cool. Women get shafted. The poor get shafted. Good people try to make it better. But now I’m at school and all I ever here is people complaining about the Gender Equality Center and its just hard to try and stand up for what I believe. Especialy because it sounds like the GEC does kind of suck, that the leader uses her position as wife of someone high up to push out other issues. Like we used to have womans month and an asia month. but now we just have two months of woman isuses. But I dont know. eh

By: Bene

Bene — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:47:20 +0000

Great post and great comments. I wish I was more coherent to comment myself, but hear hear.

By: Moominmama

Moominmama — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:02:23 +0000

Yay for Moomins!

I can fully identify with the pause-and-then-move-on response people give on being called out on thoughtlessness or outright bigotry. Calling it a Groke moment sums it up well! And after a while, the not-so-subtle game of lets-wind-up-the- feminist that often follows does tend to take the shine off social engagements. But I don’t care to socialise or work with people who aren’t prepared to accept me as fully human. I guess I’m just eccentric that way…

By: We must not walk away from this fight « blue milk

We must not walk away from this fight « blue milk — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:29:05 +0000

[...] to see it retreat into the background. Please consider signing the GetUp! Campaign petition. And a happy International Womens’ Day to us [...]

By: Aphie

Aphie — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:58:56 +0000

The other thing that comes out of this is that if you DO like something that is problematic, and people who know that you identify as a feminist know you like it, then they will be all, “Oh, well, it can’t be that bad to do X, Y, Z, if it happened in that show you like.”

Argh! Yes, yesyesyes Beppie!
Apparently I’m not supposed to watch or enjoy mainstream TV, film and books now.
I’m not sure where the location of the black hole I’m meant to exist within IS exactly, but when I get directions y’all can come live there too?

By: Deborah

Deborah — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:34:12 +0000

though I’d prefer to treat [misogynists] as a puppy in toilet training and rub their nose in their own wee… LOLed. Fantastic, thank you FP. Deborah's last blog post..Knitting! And advice, please?

By: Celebrating the Little Things in Life « HellOnHairyLegs

Celebrating the Little Things in Life « HellOnHairyLegs — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:09:15 +0000

[...] people deal with sexual assault/ harassment. Feminism does help people, even if I do feel like The Groke [...]