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33 responses to “Werribee rapist resurfaces from counselling with a musical boast”

  1. OzSoapbox

    What irks me more then the actual act itself it the subsequent slap on the wrist they received.

    The release of the rap video clearly shows they haven’t learnt anything and will most likely reoffend, albeit to a lesser degree then their original crime.

    As long as we hand down lollypop rehabilitation sentences for serious crimes this sort of nonsense is going to continue.

    OzSoapbox’s last blog post..Ringleader of Werribee attacks posts hate rap on internet

  2. badwolf

    I agree with you 100%.

    Sickening.

    I can only see one way of preventing further crimes by these scumbags, and that would end up with me in the lockup….

    So damn angry…

  3. Cheshire

    ” the video featuring child pornography (adults attacking a 17 year old girl)”

  4. Cynic

    Where is this sick little slime posting this stuff ?

  5. Y

    *cries*
    It all seems so hopeless sometimes.
    Is there anything that can be done about this ‘reporting’? Anyone to complain to (besides the newspaper editor, who in my experience don’t bother replying)
    I know nothing can be done about her rapists :-( the kind of people who would commit such acts and feel pride are beyond anything I can imagine.

  6. blue milk

    lauredhel – like you I notice this particular misuse of language everywhere in media reports… but this one here still managed to rattle me. This is a hatred of women, pure and simple, and to report such a case as a ‘sex tape’ is nothing less than complete misogyny, a total and deliberate failure to recognise that young woman as a human being.

    It seems very deliberate on the part of these journos to avoid the word ‘rape’ in their news pieces.. anyone know of any editorial policies around this in these papers?

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  8. sad

    I cried and was physically sick when I heard about this. Some people are so evil and need to be locked up [redacted*] I cannot believe the sentence they were given. Do they call this justice? I hope they rot in hell as they obviously will not get what they deserve by our justice system.


    [*No, I'm not publishing comments advocating prison rape. ~L]

  9. Deus Ex Macintosh

    *groak*

    Deus Ex Macintosh’s last blog post..Darwin’s Egg

  10. SunlessNick

    The naughtiest boys in this gang were sentenced to 12- and 18-month youth supervision orders. Others received a 12-month probation order.

    Lost for words.

    It seems very deliberate on the part of these journos to avoid the word ‘rape’ in their news pieces.

    It is, because they’re really happy to use the word any time they can precede it with “false” or “cry” – using it then and avoiding it other times reveals an attitude – or among people who use words for a living, it reveals an agenda.

  11. Janet

    Actually there was another quote from the “music producer” reported in the Courier Mail that made me nauseous:

    “He doesn’t say anything about the attack. Quote the lyrics where he says that stuff, because he doesn’t. Other people said stuff about it. Not him.
    “How would you feel if you were the family of the victims that were wrongly accused of things that didn’t happen?”

    So not only do we have the perpetrators laughing off what they’ve done, and laughing at the rest of us. They’re actively encouraged by others to dismiss what they’ve done and to view themselves as some sort of victims or heroes.

  12. orlando

    This music producer person is clearly a sociopath. I hope the police are keeping a close eye on him, because he sounds like someone who is very likely to harm others, if he hasn’t already.

  13. tigtog

    @ SunlessNick:

    I suspect legal liability issues constrain this habit and for historical and social inertial reasons that only go one way. The newspapers would love to use the word “rape” all the time, because it sells papers. It’s just that in some circumstances they will almost certainly be sued for using it and in other circumstances they can be almost certain that they will not.

    The perpetrators of the assault have been tried, convicted and sentenced and the crime they were convicted of was not rape, therefore if the newspapers call it rape they are wide open to lawsuits against which they have no defence at all, and because of all the moral panic about “ruining his life” regarding accusations of rape, the potential damages awarded could be staggering.

    On the other side of the coin, women who make an accusation of rape that is not proved in court have no legal ruling on their side to make any lawsuit a slam-dunk if a media organisation publishes articles claiming that they are liars or deluded, and even if they did sue (and win) then the damages that a jury would award them would probably be small, because juries generally are not sympathetic to women who cannot prove that they were raped in court.

    I reckon it’s just cold, callous risk and return calculation that determines whether most newspapers use the word “rape” in these reports or not.

  14. roughseas

    Strange. Some 10-15 years ago the daughter of one of our neighbours – with a physical and mental disability – was tortured, raped and murdered. Not long before that we had attended her happy 21st birthday. :( RIP Katy. We live in such a sad society sometimes. Or maybe most times.

  15. Cynic

    One has to wonder at why they were not charged with and convicted of rape. It appears as our judicial system has let society down yet again.

  16. Jha

    Just…. how??? How does a family produce such twisted children and – not do anything?

  17. Helen

    Jha, they’re probably all still living with their mums. And their mums probably still think the sun shines out of their arses.

  18. Helen

    Not the first person I blame. That’d be the boys. I didn’t mean to let the dads off the hook, either.

  19. Armagny

    Even if they were charged and convicted of aggravated rape, the most they could get is 2 years in a youth justice centre, unless the law’s been changed drastically since I knew it better.

    The 5 ‘death offences’ were the only exception.

    I think anyone who behaves like that should be sectioned, and released only when an experienced psychiatrist is willing to sign that they are no longer a threat to others.

    But we live in a society where if you cave someone’s face in, and show no remorse, and get banned from a lousy swim team after wrangling a suspended sentence, people get outraged on your behalf.

    I despair. I think I’ll enrol Bear in ‘Fight like a girl’ when she turns 5…

  20. Armagny

    I guess it seems the slightly more rehabilitative option to the other- that they get locked up for 25 years in a hellpit.

  21. Helen

    Rehabilitation, that’s the problem, isn’t it? Put kids that age in jail or even in Juvie, and they’ll learn to be worse than they are from the experts. Maybe pick up a drug habit to boot. Then when they come out – unemployable. That’s really not a good way to render them harmless.

  22. OzSoapbox

    Well, after their rehabilitation are they employable now?

    Would you hire any of them tommorow to work in your business?

  23. Helen

    OSB, obvs they aren’t rehabilitated, so that is a bit academic.

  24. OzSoapbox

    Well they were sentenced to what the judge thought was a suitable amount of time to get rehabilitated.

    If you’re suggesting they aren’t rehabilitated would you agree that rehabilitation is a sham and that they’d be no worse off had they been sent to prison?

    At least with prison there’s a small percentage that it might actually work.

  25. Casey

    It is very difficult to judge a human heart and mind from what you read in the paper. and nobody knows the whole story. You can only look at the facts of the matter and make a judgement on that. The facts are that they not only raped a disabled girl, but took pleasure in her degradation, and took pleasure in inflicting pain. And then they took pleasure in advertising it – and continue to show a defiance in these lyrics, which goes beyond teenage rebel stuff, and enters into some very disordered plane of existence. And looking at all that, for me the question is – if they can be rehabilitated at all. The acts committed most definitely fall within a category of behaviour that would see them classed as sociopathic if they were adults. Anti-social personality disorder has not responded very well to any sort of psychotherapeutic intervention. If I proceed on the idea that these individuals are not able to be rehabilitated, and I do, then my concern would be to minimise any further damage to those they may come into contact with. My only concern would be to disable any capacity they have to cause damage by whatever means available. If that means putting them away for 25 years, so be it. Im not motivated by anger here because this is enough to make you cry. To say that someone who is 17 is beyond rehabilitiation is a tragedy of enormous proportions. But that happens. And when it does, everyone needs to be protected from these individuals because they are committed to the destruction of those vulnerable to them and they do it because it brings them pleasure .

  26. Casey

    And all that was also academic, given they were given a rehab program rather than jail. I fear for whoever comes their way again.

  27. Armagny

    Casey I think the way that you have articulated the problem is similiar to the reasoning that has got me to the point where I think an approach based on treatment, coupled with proscribing freedom (whether entirely in an institution or more benignly monitored in the community, depending on risk) until it is assessed as safe to do otherwise, would make more sense.

    I think this is the case for all violent offenders of a serious or repeating type. The problem with the judicial approach is that prison is overwhelmingly punitive, rather than rehabilitative. Don’t take from this that I have much sympathy for violent offenders, I just recognise that even a large sentence (say 15 years pre parole) won’t make the community safe when the person comes out.

    It is hard to believe it isn’t obvious in a world where so many personality traits can be tagged psychiatric or psychological conditions, that a teenager who did and took pleasure in what’s described here isn’t very screwed up. It follows not only that mere punitive measures are a bit senseless, but also that the State has a responsibility to ensure the community is protected in the future. That is, he shouldn’t be free to roam around yet, given he is clearly still a danger.

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