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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20090428.4695/sam-de-brito-to-women-feminism-ur-doin-it-rong-but-dont-worry-you-just-need-a-man-to-set-you-straight/comment-page-1/#comment-130170</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SYG, imagine that instead of doing something to help indigenous youth get employment opportunities in his corner of the media*, S de B came over all condescending and said that indigenous people were DOING IT ALL RONG and should listen to HIM, a white fella, tell them how they should conduct their lives and their struggle.

*(and honestly, if someone has a media profile and resources to do so why shouldn&#039;t he be doing that anyway, and I&#039;m sure it did his marketing angle no harm)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SYG, imagine that instead of doing something to help indigenous youth get employment opportunities in his corner of the media*, S de B came over all condescending and said that indigenous people were DOING IT ALL RONG and should listen to HIM, a white fella, tell them how they should conduct their lives and their struggle.</p>
<p>*(and honestly, if someone has a media profile and resources to do so why shouldn&#8217;t he be doing that anyway, and I&#8217;m sure it did his marketing angle no harm)</p>
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		<title>By: SomeYoungGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeYoungGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah - I was being so offensive. So I changed my name. WHo cares?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;[&lt;strong&gt;MODERATOR NOTE:&lt;/strong&gt; You also changed your email address used to post your comment, and going by your previous comments this was done as an act of deception, as you are most likely not Any Young Girl at all. Such vexatious and malicious morphing is explicitly against this blog&#039;s Comments Policy, which is not at all difficult to find.  Does anybody out there in the big wide MSM world you seem so keen on care that you are a spitefully deceptive numpty?  Probably not.  Congratulations.  ~ tigtog] &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8211; I was being so offensive. So I changed my name. WHo cares?</p>
<blockquote><p><em>[<strong>MODERATOR NOTE:</strong> You also changed your email address used to post your comment, and going by your previous comments this was done as an act of deception, as you are most likely not Any Young Girl at all. Such vexatious and malicious morphing is explicitly against this blog's Comments Policy, which is not at all difficult to find.  Does anybody out there in the big wide MSM world you seem so keen on care that you are a spitefully deceptive numpty?  Probably not.  Congratulations.  ~ tigtog] </em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: SomeYoungGirl</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20090428.4695/sam-de-brito-to-women-feminism-ur-doin-it-rong-but-dont-worry-you-just-need-a-man-to-set-you-straight/comment-page-1/#comment-130149</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeYoungGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 06:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beppie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beppie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SomeYoungGirl -- if you feel that de Brito has helped you out, then that&#039;s great.  But as Tigtog has already noted, that does NOT give him a free pass to make offensive, incorrect and condescending statements.  Because you know what&#039;s nasty?

Nasty is assuming that men have rights by default, but that women need to work for their rights.

Nasty is suggesting that women who have hairy armpits don&#039;t represent &quot;real&quot; feminists.

Nasty is implying that lesbians are guilty of hijacking the feminist movement.

Nasty is telling women that they should forgo frivolous entertainment while placing no similar demands on men.

Nasty is making an untrue assumption that all men with daughters are feminists, and then telling women that they&#039;re not up to task because they do not meet this imaginary standard.

Nasty is ignoring all the activism that women do every day in order to lecture women about how politically disengaged they are.

And I choose to respond to this Nastiness by mocking it mercilessly to show how stupid it is.  I&#039;m not going to ignore it just because de Brito has done good things too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SomeYoungGirl &#8212; if you feel that de Brito has helped you out, then that&#8217;s great.  But as Tigtog has already noted, that does NOT give him a free pass to make offensive, incorrect and condescending statements.  Because you know what&#8217;s nasty?</p>
<p>Nasty is assuming that men have rights by default, but that women need to work for their rights.</p>
<p>Nasty is suggesting that women who have hairy armpits don&#8217;t represent &#8220;real&#8221; feminists.</p>
<p>Nasty is implying that lesbians are guilty of hijacking the feminist movement.</p>
<p>Nasty is telling women that they should forgo frivolous entertainment while placing no similar demands on men.</p>
<p>Nasty is making an untrue assumption that all men with daughters are feminists, and then telling women that they&#8217;re not up to task because they do not meet this imaginary standard.</p>
<p>Nasty is ignoring all the activism that women do every day in order to lecture women about how politically disengaged they are.</p>
<p>And I choose to respond to this Nastiness by mocking it mercilessly to show how stupid it is.  I&#8217;m not going to ignore it just because de Brito has done good things too.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeYoungGirl</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20090428.4695/sam-de-brito-to-women-feminism-ur-doin-it-rong-but-dont-worry-you-just-need-a-man-to-set-you-straight/comment-page-1/#comment-130144</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeYoungGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;[MODERATOR NOTE: morphers who change their posting nyms in an attempt to evade the moderation filter get their comments deleted in full ~ tigtog]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20090428.4695/sam-de-brito-to-women-feminism-ur-doin-it-rong-but-dont-worry-you-just-need-a-man-to-set-you-straight/comment-page-1/#comment-130141</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://viv.id.au/blog/20090428.4695/sam-de-brito-to-women-feminism-ur-doin-it-rong-but-dont-worry-you-just-need-a-man-to-set-you-straight/#comment-130140&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; SomeYoungGirl&lt;/a&gt;:

I certainly hadn&#039;t seen it.  It sounds like a most worthwhile mentoring program, and good on Sam de Brito for founding it.

The fact that he&#039;s capable of commendable activism on behalf of indigenous youth doesn&#039;t make him perfect or beyond criticism when he makes an arse of himself with respect to feminism though.  His column contains several statements which are simply factually incorrect and which indicate that although he probably does want some feminist goals to be advanced in our society, he still has a long way to go with feminist analysis and self-examination too.  He&#039;s only half got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/20090428.4695/sam-de-brito-to-women-feminism-ur-doin-it-rong-but-dont-worry-you-just-need-a-man-to-set-you-straight/#comment-130140" rel="nofollow"> SomeYoungGirl</a>:</p>
<p>I certainly hadn&#8217;t seen it.  It sounds like a most worthwhile mentoring program, and good on Sam de Brito for founding it.</p>
<p>The fact that he&#8217;s capable of commendable activism on behalf of indigenous youth doesn&#8217;t make him perfect or beyond criticism when he makes an arse of himself with respect to feminism though.  His column contains several statements which are simply factually incorrect and which indicate that although he probably does want some feminist goals to be advanced in our society, he still has a long way to go with feminist analysis and self-examination too.  He&#8217;s only half got it.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeYoungGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeYoungGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 04:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thu60-YB_Yg&amp;feature=channel_page

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seen this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thu60-YB_Yg&amp;feature=channel_page" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thu60-YB_Yg&amp;feature=channel_page</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah, can&#039;t believe this guy gets so much space to publish such tripe. 

Opening the Sun Herald and seeing him lauded as &quot;Feminism&#039;s new (deep) voice&quot; made me choke on my toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah, can&#8217;t believe this guy gets so much space to publish such tripe. </p>
<p>Opening the Sun Herald and seeing him lauded as &#8220;Feminism&#8217;s new (deep) voice&#8221; made me choke on my toast.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 00:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tigtog

That&#039;s good. That part struck me as really odd; you know, like reality had gone topsy turvy and I was the last to know.  But then, pretty much the whole article left that impression on me.
I mean, apparently fathers are to be considered feminists if they have a daughter - that&#039;s it  - but the mothers of those daughters and the daughters themselves, well, THEY must prove they&#039;re WORTHY and have to EARN it, dammit!  By working hard to meet criteria which are directly at odds with each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tigtog</p>
<p>That&#8217;s good. That part struck me as really odd; you know, like reality had gone topsy turvy and I was the last to know.  But then, pretty much the whole article left that impression on me.<br />
I mean, apparently fathers are to be considered feminists if they have a daughter &#8211; that&#8217;s it  &#8211; but the mothers of those daughters and the daughters themselves, well, THEY must prove they&#8217;re WORTHY and have to EARN it, dammit!  By working hard to meet criteria which are directly at odds with each other.</p>
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		<title>By: P.P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey de Brito, if it weren&#039;t for second - wavers it would still be legal for men in this country to rape their wives, you arrogant misinformed assbag.

Shaun, I totally reject the whole &quot;but what if it were YOUR daughter?&quot; trope. It reeks of paternalism. Appealing to men to see women as humans on the grounds that some of those women belong to *them* is WRONG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey de Brito, if it weren&#8217;t for second &#8211; wavers it would still be legal for men in this country to rape their wives, you arrogant misinformed assbag.</p>
<p>Shaun, I totally reject the whole &#8220;but what if it were YOUR daughter?&#8221; trope. It reeks of paternalism. Appealing to men to see women as humans on the grounds that some of those women belong to *them* is WRONG.</p>
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