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		<title>By: Jo Tamar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Tamar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Lauredhel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lauredhel.</p>
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		<title>By: bluemilk.wordpress.com/</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluemilk.wordpress.com/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely terrific post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely terrific post!</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://viv.id.au/blog/20090604.5207/on-late-term-abortions-and-sex-edcontraception/#comment-131433&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Lauredhel&lt;/a&gt;:

I used to occasionally see protesters outside the King George V hospital for Mothers and Babies (part of the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital complex in Sydney) because they were convinced that every single D&amp;C performed there was for an abortion (of course, most of them were in fact treatment &lt;em&gt;after a spontaneous miscarriage&lt;/em&gt;). 

This false belief/justification led to some highly inappropriate and offensive beseeching to &quot;please don&#039;t abort your baby&quot; addressed to women attending the hospital for prenatal consultations, which could be shrugged/laughed off by the women who were enjoying their pregnancy and anticipating a happy birth, but which must have been hell on wheels for those post-miscarriage women running the gauntlet while mourning the loss of a much wanted pregnancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://viv.id.au/blog/20090604.5207/on-late-term-abortions-and-sex-edcontraception/#comment-131433" rel="nofollow"> Lauredhel</a>:</p>
<p>I used to occasionally see protesters outside the King George V hospital for Mothers and Babies (part of the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital complex in Sydney) because they were convinced that every single D&#038;C performed there was for an abortion (of course, most of them were in fact treatment <em>after a spontaneous miscarriage</em>). </p>
<p>This false belief/justification led to some highly inappropriate and offensive beseeching to &#8220;please don&#8217;t abort your baby&#8221; addressed to women attending the hospital for prenatal consultations, which could be shrugged/laughed off by the women who were enjoying their pregnancy and anticipating a happy birth, but which must have been hell on wheels for those post-miscarriage women running the gauntlet while mourning the loss of a much wanted pregnancy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo Tamar: As far as I know, it&#039;s fairly accessible IF you have a medical indication (life of mother at risk, fetus with major diagnosis), AND you live in a capital city or large regional centre, you&#039;re not in the Catholic hospital system, and you see a doctor who gives you accurate information. Solid information is difficult to get; this is such a taboo area even with relatively &quot;societally-sanctioned&quot; indications.

addit: clinic protesters occur here, but I&#039;ve not heard of any major systemic violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo Tamar: As far as I know, it&#8217;s fairly accessible IF you have a medical indication (life of mother at risk, fetus with major diagnosis), AND you live in a capital city or large regional centre, you&#8217;re not in the Catholic hospital system, and you see a doctor who gives you accurate information. Solid information is difficult to get; this is such a taboo area even with relatively &#8220;societally-sanctioned&#8221; indications.</p>
<p>addit: clinic protesters occur here, but I&#8217;ve not heard of any major systemic violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Tamar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Tamar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*round of applause*

A question for anyone who has the Knowledge (but please don&#039;t worry if you have to go googling, I can do that myself when I get the time :) ) - anyone happen to know how accessible late term abortions are in Australia? And whether the doctors who perform them face the same sort of threats as in the US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*round of applause*</p>
<p>A question for anyone who has the Knowledge (but please don&#8217;t worry if you have to go googling, I can do that myself when I get the time :) ) &#8211; anyone happen to know how accessible late term abortions are in Australia? And whether the doctors who perform them face the same sort of threats as in the US?</p>
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		<title>By: WildlyParenthetical</title>
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		<dc:creator>WildlyParenthetical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the really awful things this has brought to light, actually, is that there are so very few doctors willing to perform these incredibly necessary procedures - that the effect of these extreme pro-life &#039;protest&#039; measures has been to make so many doctors decide not to perform them, whether because they agree that they&#039;re wrong, or because doctors are too afraid to, or because they don&#039;t want to have to deal with that level of violence and aggression every day. And that, I think, draws attention to the way that pro-life movements can affect *doctor&#039;s* choices, which in turn has detrimental effects on women&#039;s lives and health care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the really awful things this has brought to light, actually, is that there are so very few doctors willing to perform these incredibly necessary procedures &#8211; that the effect of these extreme pro-life &#8216;protest&#8217; measures has been to make so many doctors decide not to perform them, whether because they agree that they&#8217;re wrong, or because doctors are too afraid to, or because they don&#8217;t want to have to deal with that level of violence and aggression every day. And that, I think, draws attention to the way that pro-life movements can affect *doctor&#8217;s* choices, which in turn has detrimental effects on women&#8217;s lives and health care.</p>
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		<title>By: DeusExMacintosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeusExMacintosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late-term abortion is a total Aunt Sally. As far as I know is it only legal (in those places where it is permitted) WHEN A RESULT OF MEDICAL NECESSITY. 

The arrogance of lifers setting themselves up as a superior arbiter of medical necessity than a patient&#039;s own surgeon is staggering. Or perhaps they&#039;re finally willing to admit that they&#039;re trying to use access to a medical procedure as a tool of moral management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late-term abortion is a total Aunt Sally. As far as I know is it only legal (in those places where it is permitted) WHEN A RESULT OF MEDICAL NECESSITY. </p>
<p>The arrogance of lifers setting themselves up as a superior arbiter of medical necessity than a patient&#8217;s own surgeon is staggering. Or perhaps they&#8217;re finally willing to admit that they&#8217;re trying to use access to a medical procedure as a tool of moral management.</p>
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