Also, Alchemia is a guy :)

As far as that link, Lauredhel, I got as far as “Feral female sexual behavior is governed by a number of chemicals.” and decided I had better things to do tonight, like wash my hair or count my toe hairs.

More on just how awful one of the authors is, at romaine24’s. Summary: misogynistic homophobic white-supremacist neocon hate pieces about spousal abuse and date-rape, by F Roger Devlin: Gaddam says that they have the “familiar ring of truth” to him.

I’m kinda uncomfortable with the way multiple types of fanworks have been lumped into one. A’s drawing didn’t thrill me, but that’s not my kink, and I’m not terribly concerned about it because it was in her space, her rules, and well warned for. (Some of the people defending it have been a bit … eyebrow raising for me, but I think people’s tempers have flared, badly, and [as tends to happen], everyone who is seen as being on the same “side” is lumped in together. As though there were only two ways of viewing this all.) I think there are some very effective and well-reasoned defenses of it, and totally understand that, because this is not where I come from in Fandom, this is viewed differently to me than it is to them. I don’t think We As Fandom (for the meaninglessness of that statement) can really spend a lot of time fretting over what They As Not Fandom think of us, so I don’t really buy the argument that we need to be worried about what this Says About Us.

[I do hope, for A's sake, that this doesn't make into the damned book, because I suspect she'll get trolled like woah.]

I did find it interesting that people compared it to the macro-bombing. I’ve never really considered that an aggressive act, but most of the macros I’ve seen are lol-cat fails, and not aggressively offensive. So, again, my perceptions of an action are different because I’m in a different Fandom Space.

My problem was the stuff basically shoved into Ogi’s face. (And not with the fic itself – I mean, it’s not my thing, but that’s not a problem. If Fridgepunk had posted it in her LJ and it had been linked all over the internets, I wouldn’t have given it a second thought beyond “Oh fandom. I’m surprised it took this long!” I’ve certainly read other slash-written responses by Fandom (Pink Dude/Blue Dude/Pinata stuff from Fanlib, the Fandom/LJ one after Strikethrough).

Eh. I certainly see where most of the people I respect are coming from, even if they disagree strongly with each other. I’m just sad that it seems Alchemia’s become the focus of this whole discussion, as though She and She Alone made this happen.

I like this comment from Ashenmote as a response:

It was always an evolutionary advantage for Neuroscientists to crave clear distinctions between women and men and now it’s kind of hard-wired in their brains to create this kind of surveys. So, don’t be too mad at them, they can’t really help it.

It’s interesting though how they’re stubbornly typing the name of their dialog partner and signing their contributions, even when the very comment structure of the medium they’re interacting in made it redundant to do so, and everyone around them adapted to the fact. Classic rigid behavior patterns.

Of course, ‘Mote and I share a very dry sense of humour.

Yeah, I just wanted to mention it because I could see from the html that you had tried to make it “Do you want to see this?” and that it didn’t work. No harm, no foul, at least from my POV.

@SQBR

If I had the energy for the “OMG YOU HATER” that I thought such a post would generate, I’d make it myself, but I’m just too busy and too stressed and trending towards “Word, you are awful” to cope. I mean, here I know if I say “I didn’t like this, here’s why”, I’m not going to get hatemail for my troubles.