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		<title>By: Guest Post: Utah OB Practice Declares Its Misogyny Up Front &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20091025.6890/utah-ob-practice-declares-its-misogyny-up-front/comment-page-1/#comment-137993</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest Post: Utah OB Practice Declares Its Misogyny Up Front &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lauredhel.  Lauredhel blogs about reproductive justice and medicine, among other things, at Hoyden about Town. She wrote an excellent analysis of a rather amazing sign recently discovered in an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lauredhel.  Lauredhel blogs about reproductive justice and medicine, among other things, at Hoyden about Town. She wrote an excellent analysis of a rather amazing sign recently discovered in an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebekka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note, this &lt;a href=&quot;http://allnurses.com/ob-gyn-nursing/obs-birth-plan-375056.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OB&#039;s &quot;birth plan&quot;&lt;/a&gt; - argh:  (found via &lt;a href=&quot;http://rixarixa.blogspot.com/2009/10/ghouls-and-doulahs.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stand &amp; Deliver&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note, this <a href="http://allnurses.com/ob-gyn-nursing/obs-birth-plan-375056.html" rel="nofollow">OB&#8217;s &#8220;birth plan&#8221;</a> &#8211; argh:  (found via <a href="http://rixarixa.blogspot.com/2009/10/ghouls-and-doulahs.html" rel="nofollow">Stand &amp; Deliver</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20091025.6890/utah-ob-practice-declares-its-misogyny-up-front/comment-page-1/#comment-137406</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 02:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, I know that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Then I request that you stay on-topic in this thread. You can start your own blog at www.wordpress.com if you have more to say on other subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, I know that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then I request that you stay on-topic in this thread. You can start your own blog at <a href="http://www.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wordpress.com</a> if you have more to say on other subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: Politicalguineapig</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20091025.6890/utah-ob-practice-declares-its-misogyny-up-front/comment-page-1/#comment-137398</link>
		<dc:creator>Politicalguineapig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I know that. Still, I wish the red state politicos would get a big fat helping of the clue by-four or wither away like the useless political appendixes that they are.  
Utah as a state is quite pretty, but my god, the people there. (Apoligies in advance to any rational Utahans, if such creatures exist.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I know that. Still, I wish the red state politicos would get a big fat helping of the clue by-four or wither away like the useless political appendixes that they are.<br />
Utah as a state is quite pretty, but my god, the people there. (Apoligies in advance to any rational Utahans, if such creatures exist.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lauredhel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauredhel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brooke and Politicalguineapig: I realise it&#039;s reassuring to pretend that this is something that happens Somewhere Else, to Those Other People, but this attitude is not even slightly Utah-specific, nor is it specific to certain states of one particular country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brooke and Politicalguineapig: I realise it&#8217;s reassuring to pretend that this is something that happens Somewhere Else, to Those Other People, but this attitude is not even slightly Utah-specific, nor is it specific to certain states of one particular country.</p>
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		<title>By: Politicalguineapig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Politicalguineapig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but in Utah and the red states,  treating women as second-class occurs daily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but in Utah and the red states,  treating women as second-class occurs daily</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Radfem</title>
		<link>http://hoydenabouttown.com/20091025.6890/utah-ob-practice-declares-its-misogyny-up-front/comment-page-1/#comment-137375</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Radfem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eilish - couple of things you need to hear. 1. Don&#039;t compare childbirth to cancer- it&#039;s NOT a disease. And 2. Before men got it into their heads that they needed to undermine women&#039;s capacity for giving life, in order to control it, we were doing fine at supporting each other to give birth. We knew what we were doing and it was considered to be well within the bounds of female competence. When childbirth became medicalised it was to the deliberate exclusion of women, because men needed to control everything including the means of reproduction - that was when we ceased to be human in men&#039;s eyes. The sign in the OP is much more than the denial of women&#039;s human rights, it&#039;s a deliberate attempt to obstruct women from unity and solidarity.

Brooke- women are second class citizens everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eilish &#8211; couple of things you need to hear. 1. Don&#8217;t compare childbirth to cancer- it&#8217;s NOT a disease. And 2. Before men got it into their heads that they needed to undermine women&#8217;s capacity for giving life, in order to control it, we were doing fine at supporting each other to give birth. We knew what we were doing and it was considered to be well within the bounds of female competence. When childbirth became medicalised it was to the deliberate exclusion of women, because men needed to control everything including the means of reproduction &#8211; that was when we ceased to be human in men&#8217;s eyes. The sign in the OP is much more than the denial of women&#8217;s human rights, it&#8217;s a deliberate attempt to obstruct women from unity and solidarity.</p>
<p>Brooke- women are second class citizens everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was the UT piece that then lead me to not be surprised.  sorry if you know this (i&#039;ve just happened in on your blog) but this is UT, where the majority religion, and thus the majority of the people who govern the state, doesn&#039;t believe that women get to have a real say in anything besides raising families.  women are 2nd class citizens to a lot of people in this state.  *sigh* i bet all the OB&#039;s in that practice are men, white ones, and of the majority religion.  yes, utah is very very very weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was the UT piece that then lead me to not be surprised.  sorry if you know this (i&#8217;ve just happened in on your blog) but this is UT, where the majority religion, and thus the majority of the people who govern the state, doesn&#8217;t believe that women get to have a real say in anything besides raising families.  women are 2nd class citizens to a lot of people in this state.  *sigh* i bet all the OB&#8217;s in that practice are men, white ones, and of the majority religion.  yes, utah is very very very weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still prefer when places are open about the fact that they will treat me unfairly. Hopefully there is another clinic nearby that can cater to pregnant women&#039;s needs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still prefer when places are open about the fact that they will treat me unfairly. Hopefully there is another clinic nearby that can cater to pregnant women&#8217;s needs?</p>
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		<title>By: PharaohKatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>PharaohKatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebekka: Yes, of course. Part of the ages old practice of controlling women by claiming power and ownership over their bodies. It goes hand in hand with slut shaming and criminalising abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebekka: Yes, of course. Part of the ages old practice of controlling women by claiming power and ownership over their bodies. It goes hand in hand with slut shaming and criminalising abortion.</p>
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