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tigtog (aka Viv) lives in Sydney, Australia: husband, 2 kids, cat, house, garden, just enough wine-racks and (sigh) far too few bookshelves. Viv web-wrangles for hire and edits Gagging For It (Oz Comedy News). tigtog is the founder of Hoyden About Town and Finally, A Feminism 101 Blog.

11 responses to “Between two senior politicians and three journalists, none of us knows how to make it work”

  1. Mindy

    This piece of advice is from Phillip Greenspun who runs a helicopter pilot training school.

    Don’t go anywhere at night that you haven’t been to a lot of times during the daytime.

    I would assume that this is why the pilot couldn’t fly at night.

    The slur on Junior Impu is just disgusting and the paper should print a retraction.

  2. My father has spent forty years flying mostly rotating-wing aircraft and teaching others to fly them for a living. He’s kind of a nerd (gosh, you’d never have guessed with me being his daughter, amirite?) and likes to talk about his work. I’ve been in small fixed-wing and rotating-wing aircraft and it’s lots of fun. Oddly, in these I don’t have the same anxiety/fear/vomiting I do with airliners. Maybe it’s the crowding and not being able to see. Anyway!

    Darkness is an adverse weather condition; like fog and rain and snow it makes it hard to see. Reduced visibility makes things difficult. Being unable to see the ground makes maintaining level flight difficult: humans turn out to be pretty much unable to tell when they’re flying at a list or upside-down without visual indicators. Which is why aircraft have instruments. Like an artificial horizon, and a compass (and/or GPS display), and an altimeter. It takes training and practice to use them.

    And many helicopters have searchlamps mounted under the nose that the copilot can use to illuminate stuff on the ground. Which helps in avoiding trees and suchlike.
    .-= kaninchenzero´s last blog ..Re: Trust Me =-.

  3. Lauredhel

    I was struck at the outset of the story, before I even got to the bit about no water and nobody having so much as a light jacket, by the part about hooning around on quad bikes in the remotest outback with no apparent semblance of an emergency plan – and, given that they were travelling without enough water, they likely had no medical supplies of any kind either. What exactly were they planning to do in the event of a (very very common with quad bikes) spinal injury or head injury or major fracture?

    And I can well embrace the idea that Abbott might be exactly this ignorant and careless, but did no-one in his office raise the issue of outing planning either? A fool who surrounds himself with other fools is a particularly dangerous political prospect.

  4. Helen

    Dare I say it, someone like Kev who was a bit nerdy might have been a bit… useful!

    We’re used to helicopters at night in Melbourne; the cops use them to track “offenders”.

  5. Nacey

    Unfortunately the media is spinning this bush jaunt as a funny story about Abbott. I fear nobody sees what a dangerous, thoughtless person he is.

  6. Lauredhel

    I just asked my kid what he would do if he was stuck in the desert with only a satellite phone. “Call an ambulance, and ask them to bring sandwiches when they come,” he said.

    Verdict: Prime Ministerial candidate officially less smart than a second-grader.

  7. Helen

    Did you tell him that the potential PM couldn’t work the satellite phone, and neither could any of the other adults there? (And slightly O/T, how come their innate biological gendered affinity with gadgets didn’t kick in there?) [/snark]

  8. Jo Tamar

    *headdesk* *headdesk* *headdesk*

    This person thinks he can lead a country?

    And ZOMG that article is full of fail, even apart from what you’ve put in, tigtog.

    Just two examples that I think show how irresponsible the tourists seem to have been:

    We had no food. No beer.
    [emphasis added]

    ‘Cos, you know, that’s what’s important…

    Another plan was to ring them and get the pilot to drop off, in order of priority, red wine, water, blankets and food.

    Being lost in the desert is no fucking joke, Toohey!

  9. fuckpoliteness

    Jo Tamar that’s the other stuff that bugged me – it seemed a big chance to grand-stand over how blokey and Common People they are…there was a quote in one of the articles I read about it citing Abbott crapping on about wanting someone to bring beer, water, blankets…but most importantly beer. That sort of ‘No really….maaaaate, we’re all men here, I’m not *really* a fundamentalist – BEER unites us all and is more important than anything’ crap has been bugging me a lot lately.

  10. Jo Tamar

    Yeah, that has been getting to me, too.

    The other thing that really got to me, which I’ve just worked out how to articulate fairly briefly and in a way that distinguishes the point from what tigtog has already said, is the whole “mystical native” thing that’s going on throughout the article (together with a sort of put out tone from Toohey because the Aboriginal people didn’t live up to the “mystical native” stereotype):

    The traditional owners were not much help. They had never visited this part of their country.

    Abbott said to Anselem: “So mate, where are we?”
    “F***** if I know,” said Anselem.

    Terry Mills said the Aborigines did not eat [camels] because they had carried the three wise men. I asked Anselem about this.
    “Three white men?” No, wise men.
    “Nah, not because of that,” said Anselem. “We used to ride on camels when our grandfathers was alive. That’s why we don’t eat them. We feel sorry for it. That’s why we don’t eat them.”

    With a bit of “Aboriginal people are lazy” thrown in:

    The Aboriginal men in the party had no interest in walking up the creek bed. They sat in the shade near the quads. Asked if they knew this country, Hubert said no.

    (Personally, I think sitting in the shade near the quads sounds bloody sensible.)

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