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5 responses to “Secular Sermon Quicklink: Getting Rich Is a Group Effort”

  1. Megpie71

    Yes! Exactly! This is the part of the whole “social contract” equation that so many Glibertarians miss when they say “they gain nothing from paying taxes”. What they gain is a whole heap of things they’re so used to living with (a stable society; a society where “rule of law” is primary, a society where there are things like police forces, and emergency services; a society where owning a business doesn’t mean you have to own your own private army; a society where you can sign a contract with another person, and then have legal recourse to the courts if they renege, or change their minds; even something as absolutely fundamental to their particular world-view as an agreed-upon means of exchange with an agreed-upon value) that they don’t even notice them. They’re like the oxygen in the air – we’re so used to them being there that we don’t notice them except when they’re absent.

    But if they’re not there – if the society is in the process of degrading (I’m tempted to use the USA as an example here), or pulling itself back together out of a chaotic state (eg former Yugoslavia, the former Soviet Union, Somalia); if the rule of law is breaking down (no systems of arbitration other than “I have the bigger stick/gun/tank/gang therefore I am Right”); if owning a business means you have to be prepared to physically fight off both competitors and wreckers (for example, Mafia “protection” situations); if there isn’t a police force, or a fire brigade to deal with theft or arson (Mafia “protection” again); if contract law breaks down (the law of the bigger stick once again); or if the means of exchange isn’t readily ascertainable (barter societies) then it becomes not so much impossible, but certainly much more difficult to create and/or maintain wealth.

    The thing about “class warfare”, as the USAlien rich use the term, is that no matter how nasty it gets, it isn’t a patch on what not only can happen, but will happen when genuine social warfare breaks out. Being asked to pay more in taxes is a lot less lethal than being loaded into a tumbril and led to the guillotine, or stood up against a wall and shot, or having one’s head sliced off with a machete, or any of the myriad other ways various proletarian and bourgeois groups have found for dealing with a recalcitrant aristocracy over the centuries. The intelligent aristocrats (and I use “aristocrats” here as a shorthand for “the super-rich” – the ones who don’t have to work to make a living, they just have to sit back and watch the interest roll in) are the ones who see that money is less painful to lose than life.

  2. WildlyParenthetical

    I totally agree with this, but I’d just like to add: not all of the things which make possible the building of a factory in this example are tax-payer-funded, though many are. There’s the whole getting born and raised thing, which is often very heavily reliant upon women’s labour, and is often not even recognised as labour, let alone as infrastructure. These are the reasons that I’m occasionally suspicious of ‘social contract’ talk, because it often relies upon an imagining of all stuff as quantifiable, therefore as exchangeable, even as a bunch of women’s labour remains difficult to quantify (and I remain ambivalent about the usefulness of doing so for feminism). Speaking of things so familiar and taken-for-granted they are like the air we breathe…

  3. orlando

    Thank goodness a politician is finally saying this; I can’t believe it’s taken so long.

    “Social security” doesn’t just mean security for the people who might find themselves directly in need of support, it means making your society a secure one.

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