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19 responses to “OMG Zombesity crisis, again.”

  1. Megpie71

    Oh, but didn’t you know? Being fat is terrible. So terrible, in fact, that some bright spark at the New Matilda (Ben Pobjie, in fact) has had the bright idea that fat-shaming Gina Reinhart is likely to make her back down and stop trying to impose her particular ideology on the majority of Australians.

    Yes, I knew you’d be impressed.

  2. Lauredhel

    There’s also the misogynistic crack at Hope in para 2, which rather sets things up badly.

  3. Agnes

    It’s being extremely disingenuous to suggest that obesity has nothing to do with diabetes.

  4. Megpie71

    Agnes: you’re right. There is a link between weight retention and diabetes. Unfortunately for the anti-fat zealots, it runs in the opposite direction to the way that the mainstream media likes to portray it.

    The mainstream picture is that being fat causes type 2 (insulin resistant) diabetes in some nebulous fashion. The emerging picture from decades of medical research is that the causality actually runs in the opposite direction – in fact low-level insulin resistance causes problems in the cellular energy usage and storage cycle, which leads to more energy being retained as fatty tissue. So it’s not that being fat makes you develop diabetes. Instead, the story is that having an early form of insulin resistance makes you prone to retaining body fat, and the whole cycle goes around in a negative feedback loop until it becomes a major inconvenience and reaches the point of being clinically detectable.

  5. kvd

    Mindy I’m starting to think this is ‘the new climate change’ – where everyone gets to feel totally responsible for just about everything. Here’s The Telegraph’s latest contribution.

    But I must say your theory about condoms reducing weight is interesting.

  6. Feminist Avatar

    There is a really weird claim in that Telegraph article that ‘excess consumption shortens lives’. Excess consumption of what? and whose lives is it shortening, because all those ‘fat’ countries are pretty high up on the life expectancy tables, and most predictions continue to point upwards, despite claims of rising obesity.

  7. kvd

    all those ‘fat’ countries are pretty high up on the life expectancy tables

    Yes, I noticed that as well, but I don’t think we’re allowed to talk about it – not being experts as such.

  8. Mindy

    @kvd – my hubby keeps telling me that sex is good exercise. I’m just suggesting that people doing it, who may be at risk of contracting an STI might want to think about using condoms. Sex probably wouldn’t be a bad way to improve your fitness if you wanted to go that way.

  9. Tamara
  10. Tamara

    Ugh, sorry for poor linking skills.

  11. Thacky

    I have just been diagnosed with High Blood Pressure and saw a specialist yesterday. I was very pleased she made no reference to my weight (considerable, all my own work, I’m very proud) until late in the convo and then as a throw-away aside as a ‘risk factor’.

    However, when I responded saying that every diet had resulted in my getting bigger -that I lose 5-10k pretty easily, and then nothing, even as I reduce calories and get more and more obsessive and she responded “Yes, your metabolism is resistant to weight loss -the only way you’ll lose weight is a lapband.” Which she said would work, but she wasn’t pushing it.

    I left a bit schemozzled. Both good and dismaying to hear that a diet wouldn’t work – Good to have my experience both acknowledged and validated, dismaying because apparently I still had a fantasy that one day, these pounds would melt away if I found the magic formula.

    Anyway, thanks for the ongoing examination and interrogation of the usual narrative – I need to hear that I’m not dooming the country.

  12. Jo

    TW: Fat hate.

    So I thought about this and wrote a blog post about this “bikini body” diet thing that’s been going round Facebook, because only skinny people have the right to wear bikinis, right? Second comment I get brings up the “yeah size twelve people fine BUT ZOMG morbidly obese people, they ust need to stop eating so much!”

    Look at the blog of the person who wrote the comment – three posts attacking Melissa McEwan from Shakesville with the title “it’s not fat shaming, it’s idiot shaming.” I’m not linking.

    This is where the “obesity crisis” has gotten us: hate and shame.

  13. Feminist Avatar

    The logic of the study that Tamara highlights is seriously flawed (or at least the reporting makes it seem that way). The BBC also reports on it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18462985 and they have a number of related feature pages, like you can put your weight into a field and find out where your average weight compares with the world average (because this is really important news)! The claim is that obesity is more draining on the world’s resources than population growth, but, it’s all based on an assumption that obese people eat a lot more than non-obese people. And this is proved because some of the biggest resource-consuming countries are also the heaviest – like the USA. (Rather than say thinking about how resources are used in those countries and how much food is disposed of without being eaten, and the impact of things like height to average weight and the relationship between both and health, or the fact that professional athletes presumably eat more than most obese people but not questioning whether this is a moral use of resources).

    Part of me wonders whether the actual study really says people in many countries are now consuming more food than in the past and that is unsustainable on a global scale, and this has been turned into an obesity issue.

  14. Louise

    What always gets me with the reporting on health studies is the “people who do X have a lower mortality rate/are less likely to die” nonsense. Sorry, the mortality rate is 100% regardless of what you do or don’t do, however good or bad your health is along the way. You may lower your chances of dying from a particular ailment, or dying early, or whatever – but you aren’t lowering your chances of dying. And then of course there’s the “people who stand on one leg in autumn are twice as likely to die of a heart attack!” screamers. Yeah, but what they conveniently forget to tell you is that you might go from one in a million to two in a million, or some such numbers. Pfft to such reporting.

  15. Rebekka

    Louise, bad reporting, but I think they generally mean, the chances of dying within x period, not the chances of dying full stop (which as you say, 100%, or a probability of 1).

  16. Thacky

    @Mindy

    Thanks for your thoughts -you are quite right.

    I remember years ago a (white, thin, male) doctor telling me that to lose weight all I had to do was think like a thin person! I told him if I was thin I would eat far fewer vegies, and far more potato cakes. I also suggested the delusional thinking was not really more healthy. He didn’t like me.

    There’s no doubt I push myself to keep up my fruit/vegie intake due to the urgings of HAES, and if I was thin, I wouldn’t. Thanks for giving me a different perspective.

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