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9 responses to “It’s so easy to fact-check”

  1. Matilda

    Hell, it’s so famous, it made it into a Blackadder II episode. Incidentally, one of the things that annoyed me about HBO’s Elizabeth I was that they had Robin I give her the “heart and stomach” line.

  2. La di Da

    I like to think of movies such as these as a kind of fanfic. Not exactly historically accurate at all, but more about recreating the spirit of the events and a sense of the era and various goings on; kind of exploring the mythology of it all. I don’t think the filmmakers are claiming it’s Exactly What Happened either. Hey, Shakespeare did it. “We few, we happy few, we band of brothers”, anyone?

    Then you get idiots like James Cameron going about boasting that every single thing in their Titanic movie will be precisely historically accurate and then there are 238764 blindingly obvious fallacies and inaccuracies in the final product.

  3. Laura

    Perhaps he’s just chosen an unfortunately dogmatic way of overstating the legitimate doubt around whether Elizabeth ever made this speech, wore armour etc. I was taught that the speech first pops up in the 1620s (maybe that letter you linked to) at a time when there was more than usually foul scorn of Spain in the offing at home. I can’t actually believe that someone as sharp and experienced as Richard Schickel could really not have an inkling of what she’s traditionally supposed to have said. Still, the screenwriting jab seems to imply that this *is* what he means.

  4. Mickle
  5. david tiley

    The Americans are having a big fat pile on about the Elizabeth film, which seems to go beyond mere dislike.

    Something about the bollywood edge I reckon.

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