Article written by Lauredhel

Lauredhel is an Australian woman and mother with a disability. She blogs about social justice, reproductive justice, freedom from violence, the use and misuse of language, medical science, being disabled, her garden, and whatever else pops into her head.

Lauredhel also blogs at FWD/Forward (feminists with disabilities), scribbles at her personal dreamwidth journal Selective and Arbitrary, and co-moderates Hollaback Australia. She joined Hoyden About Town in 2007.

18 responses to ““Death twice as likely by caesarean”?”

  1. su

    Is it a good sign that the study made it into the SMH? I hope so.
    I feel pretty fortunate that I a)opted for a GP not an Ob/gyn and b) gave birth both times before the GP could arrive anyway. That snippet of back and forth between OB’s you posted on your journal was enlightening in a horrifying way.

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  3. Cara

    Great post. I always learn a lot from these ones.

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  4. Mindy

    That whole “I know what women want – planned caesarians” thing really shits me. I wanted a vaginal birth, but when you have the ‘dead baby’ card thrust in your face enough times sometimes you just have to give in so that you can get by. I know my Dr was sincere, he has lost a baby with a mother in a similiar situation to mine, but I just wish he’d shut up about it and let me make my own decision in my own good time. It’s not all about maternal choice it’s about Drs and hospitals thinking they know best.

  5. SungaiKecil

    It’s not hard to get really though is it?
    Stay home. Stay safe. Homebirth.

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  6. rainne

    I’m late, but SungaiKecil it’s incredibly hard to get. My family GP, who used to practice obstretrics in a rural area (and is hands-on, agrees with me about ‘knife-happy OBs and generally displays herself as woman-centred’ still did everything she could to dissuade me from a home birth right from the beginning. And she isn’t even able to be the ‘pregnancy’ GP for various reasons. I’m lucky enough to be using a hospital who are affiliated with an all-female GP practice who deliver so I don’t have to use a specialised OB, but none of them will attend at a home birth.

    A friend who is an independent midwife tells me that for insurance reasons, very few independents will attend at homebirths – that is, if they do they are effectively doing so at their own risk because they won’t be covered by their insurance if something goes wrong and the mother sues.

    Given all of that, the best advice my friend could give me was – try and stay at home as long as possible (which means no access to pain relief such as gas) so that by the time you get to the hospital it’s too late for them to risk an intervention but at least there’ll be someone there to catch the baby.

    And I’m a highly educated woman living in a medium sized city, so it’s not a matter of having unusually limited options in my area. This is what’s out there – or if it isn’t, none of my caregivers are telling me otherwise.

    It’s just not that simple.

  7. SungaiKecil

    Ok. I am well aware of the politics surrounding birth in this country.
    Rainne, have you even tried to contact the independent midwives working in your city?

    The thing is, by settling for second best you are only supporting the status quo.

    “Socialisation is a very powerful force, access and affordability are major issues, as is lack of general community and family support. ” Well, FWIW I am one of those women who had been socialised to reject homebirth, affordability was a major constrain and I had no family support to homebirth. But for some of us, it’s about taking control of our own lives and making the best choices for our births regardless of what ‘others’ may think. They are not the ones who will have to relive birth trauma for years to come, and they aren’t the ones risking death by entering the hospital environment. I know how hard homebirth is to get, especially as a woman with a great big freakin’ “High Risk” label on your head. I am not, and never will be eligible for Community Midwifery.
    I know that all care *could* be evidence based, but if it was, less people would be making money, and as much as that serves women’s interests, it certainly does not serve care providers interests, and is therefore less likely to be presented as a viable course. They put a price on our births, and we support them in doing that by choosing them to care for us.

    Also Rainne, just because the GP practice your hospital is affiliated with is all female, please don’t be fooled into thinking they are more ‘woman centred’, females are just as capable of commitng birth rape in this community.

    I totally get what you’re saying, but it makes me angry as shit that women aren’t supported in rejecting what is offered as maternity ‘care’ in this society. If we all stopped bleating along to the slaughter house we’d all benefit from a chance to be part of a real maternity revolution.

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  8. Rebekka

    Here, here SungaiKecil!

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  10. C-section

    i would just like to comment that allthough your study seems to be well researched a c-section, to an elective c-section is the same thing with the same mortality rate.. as with those of vaginal births the main difference is that the baby doesnt have pressure on its lungs during a c-section which can cause resportory delay.. i think the way one births a child is that of their own chocie… and frankly that of their doctors… i am having an ELECTIVE C-SECTION because my child is positioned wrong.. EVEN THOUGH they could flip my child and risk getting it stuck in its cord or stress it.. i prefer to give my child the most benifical chance it can have.. and that is through a c-section… and word to the wise i know of a few babys who have died after vaginal birth because of problems overlooked… so although you may have some good research until you are faced with the chocie and its conflicts you really cant judge how unjust it is! (a c-section is actually more harmful for the mother then the child due to blood loss and infection)

  11. SungaiKecil

    Your baby is the wrong way?? You mean – breech…. right?
    If my doctor was making the choice for me regarding my birth, I’d be running far, far away.

    The most beneficial birth you can give you child is one where you and the baby begin labour in your own time, and have no bullshit pressure from outsiders who see surgery as an optimal outcome (it might be for a surgeon, it’s not for you).

    There is every chance your baby could change position right up until any moment before it was born, or even *heck* be born breech…. it’s not as dangerous as you are led to believe.

    I’d suggest not believing every word of a person who gains most of out bullshitting to you, and doing some research on breech vaginal birth yourself… it’s all out there for you to access.

    Give your baby the ABSOLUTE best chance…

  12. Sairah

    I just read this blog post, and it’s really informative.
    What I really hate though, is when people – mainly doctors, but often well-wishing friends too – start making the decisions about birthing.
    If someone wants a C-section.. let them without trying to talk them out of it (providing they’ve made the decision themselves).
    Same if someone wants a home birth vs a hospital one. It shouldn’t matter to other people where or how they choose to have their baby, and the mother should be fully supported in her choices.

  13. Rebekka

    “If someone wants a C-section.. let them without trying to talk them out of it (providing they’ve made the decision themselves).”

    But what if their decision isn’t an *informed* decision? What if they’re basing it on their doctor having told them they’re having a “large” baby? Or on thinking it’s “easier” or “safer”?

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