Article written by Lauredhel

Lauredhel is an Australian woman and mother with a disability. She blogs about social justice, reproductive justice, freedom from violence, the use and misuse of language, medical science, being disabled, her garden, and whatever else pops into her head.

Lauredhel also blogs at FWD/Forward (feminists with disabilities), scribbles at her personal dreamwidth journal Selective and Arbitrary, and co-moderates Hollaback Australia. She joined Hoyden About Town in 2007.

24 responses to “Friday Hoyden: Rayyan Hamoudi from Little Mosque on the Prairie”

  1. Fine

    Oh dear. The Canadians are so earnest and lovable in their politics.

  2. QoT

    Hang on a tick, am I supposed to believe that Islam isn’t a monolithic hivemind? HAS FOX NEWS BEEN LYING TO ME ALL THIS TIME?

    I kid, we don’t get Fox in NZ (proof of God’s existence if ever there were any).

  3. Dani

    I stumbled on this show on YouTube during its first season, and I love it to death. (No Canadian broadcasts on this side of Michigan, alas.)

    Apart from Rayyan, who is the closest thing I have to a media “hero,” I love the few episodes about Layla’s struggles to be both a teenager like her friends and to be Muslim in her own way while dealing with a very conservative Muslim father.

  4. Fine

    The trouble is those clips are so dull and preachy.

  5. The Devil Drink

    Western traps designed to seduce Muslims to drink alcohol

    Heh. The best trick I ever pulled was convincing people that the appeal of being drunk per se didn’t exist.

  6. Stephan Zielinski

    Only three seasons? Good. That means I should be done assimilating the rest fairly quickly.

    (That is one charming ensemble cast they put together, there.)

  7. informally yours

    I am a bit confused how come it is said of the character… “Rayyan is unapologetically a Muslim feminist, and her local feminist agitations, depicted positively, have been a recurrent thread throughout the series.”

    And yet Sarah Palin a Christian conservative couldnot possibly be a feminist and is described as being imbued with anti-woman policies. From a feminist perspective as far as i can see both religious women seek to involve their daughters in sometimes questionable practices, but that doesn’t help the daughters of the world to hear a voice, a woman’s voice, the feminist voice, of matter over mind – when it is taking sides – when it ought to be adopting a program that sets both previously mentioned mind-sets aflame and is being seen as an opposition to both. The rest of us are portrayed as per ADworkin as being unaware self-haters and patriarchal chimps!? You do not seem to be evenly applying the blow torch of your criticism across the social spectrum.

    I do not have a fast enough email connection to see the clips mentioned but i’ll look out for the series when i do. So far i’ve not been very impressed with the shows i’ve seen on MSM that ‘deal’ with Muslim issues. I’ve definitely found it infuriatingly directed at children (We wear the veil to protect ourselves from ‘uncontrollable’ boys [male sexuality] as per the ‘Proud Family’ episode.) Also, after seeing Jihad Sheilas – think i also object to glorification of the western convert character. So dull and preachy? Seems as though there is every likelihood it is also described as dangerous and offensive.

    Lauredhel – on your comment to Fine that she is ‘welcome to move on’ if she doesn’t like what she sees i thought that wasn’t in the spirit of encouraging lively discussion.

  8. fuckpoliteness

    {Mods pls feel free to cut and paste this to an elsewhere/not publish/what have you as it addresses IY’s issues and not Rayyan’s Hoydenicity}

    Hi IY.

    First up Rayyan does not *have* a daughter

    Therefore she does not have a daughter to involve in “questionable practises” (such as what, being a doctor? Having a giggle when religion doesn’t make sense).

    Re your link b/w Rayyan (fictional character in comedy sit-com whose world view alters the world not a whit beyond making tv viewers happy/sad/what have you) and Palin (potential VP and let’s face it potential President whose world view has the potential to shape American domestic and foreign policy and have enourmous impact on the lives of Americans and, well, COUNTLESS numbers of people):

    First, Rayyan’s ‘feminist agitations’ (as in to agitate for reform, to be actively calling for feminist changes) are mentioned. What ‘feminist agitating’ has Palin done, other than to agitate feminists (as in to annoy)? Please consult her track record and her stated policy before replying.

    Second, no one is ‘imbuing’ Palin with ‘anti woman policies’ or with anything else. (Defintion of imbue: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3A+imbue&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a)

    Third, people are looking at Palin’s track record in government and raising concerns over many issues such as (but not exclusively)allegations of corruption and nepotism, enquiries into book banning, and oh so many other things you will surely have read by now. If not: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html. She is anti-choice, which if this were HER body she was choosing for would be fine, but when she’s running for VP and potentially Pres, becomes a major issue.

    Um, I’m not sure what you mean by:
    that doesn’t help the daughters of the world to hear a voice, a woman’s voice, the feminist voice, of matter over mind – when it is taking sides – when it ought to be adopting a program that sets both previously mentioned mind-sets aflame and is being seen as an opposition to both.

    Particularly I’m not sure what it means that you think that there is such a thing as *the* feminist voice, or that what that is, is ‘matter over mind’. I’m kinda curious to know if you are a feminist or not, since if you’re not then perhaps you might want to not tell feminists what they ‘ought’ to be doing.

    Re Fine, don’t presume all commentors are female, Fine’s pretty regular around here and I think probably ok with being told to either contribute to the thread which is a discussion of Rayyan’s “Hoydenicity” or you know, perhaps move on as the point that Fine thinks the clips were dull/preachy had been made?

  9. Helen

    #8- Was that Philip Travers? I didn’t understand a word of it.

  10. informally yours

    All of the comments so far say more about the commenter than my comment. 10 ad hominem attempted assassination.

    Fuckpoliteness; Re: discouraging lively debate, and the explanation given by you of the probable meaning of Fine being told s/he is welcome to move on, as being because they’d be OK with being told to keep on track is convenient justification only, i saw no evidence that Fine had repeatedly emphasised the point and so my comment stands that it appears as discouraging lively debate.

    MOOving on.

  11. fuckpoliteness

    Well the first 7 say nothing about your comment, so fair call on those. But I raised a number of points in relation to your comment, so I’m interested to see in what way they say more about me than about your comment. Hard not to see your latching onto the minor point at the end of my comment re Fine who appears to be…well…Fine with how things are…is that not a convenient justification not to engage with all the serious issues raised re your initial comment?

  12. fuckpoliteness

    Beg pardon re disjointed final sentence…anyhoo…went to download LMotP and no joy…hard disk too full. :(
    I liked her refusal to be Watson too! :)

  13. tigtog

    [comment removed and reposted in an on-topic thread ~ tigtog]

  14. tigtog

    P.S. informally yours – if you wish to discuss Palin, could you do it on the current Palin thread instead of hijacking this one?

    I’m actually going to remove my comment above and repost it over there.

  15. mystery_bouffe

    I really, really don’t like “Little Mosque On The Prairie”. I was rather excited when it came out – after all, it was a progressive comedy show! About Muslims! In Canada! I was all “OMFG my country IS H4x0r 1337!” Plus, I try to throw the CBC a bone every once in a while, sometimes they have good stuff.

    Alas, stilted dialogue, poor acting, and transparent plots switched me off. It’s not a well-done show, it really isn’t…but then again, CBC has this tendency to: a) create shows nobody wants to watch (Sophie), b) create shows people theoretically want to watch, but prove painfully hokey and/or stale (Little Mosque), or c) hang on for dear life to shows that once were fabulous, and are now curling their fetid, gnarled fingers around the last ribbons of existence (Royal Canadian Air Farce, anything involving George Stroumboulopoulos).

    I just don’t think Little Mosque is fresh or funny enough to stand as a good show. It’s definitely a landmark show, and plenty of other television series could learn from its strong female protagonists, tolerance for those who are different, and ability to confront difficult topics in a light-hearted manner; in turn, Little Mosque needs to attend Writing and Acting 101, ASAP.

  16. Fine

    Just thought I should come back to say I wasn’t offended to be told to move on.

    Also, I highly recommend ‘Salam Cafe’ a comedy made that I thikn realy works and pokes fun at Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

    And I guess the point I was making earlier is akin to the one made by mystery-bouffe.

  17. Helen

    I think we Australians imbibe a certain comfortable familiarity with Canadian TV cos the ABC imports so many childrens programs from there.

  18. Su

    Seconding Fine’s recommendation. I only caught Salam Cafe a couple of times but it was the best australian comedy I have seen in a long time.

  19. fuckpoliteness

    I will try the blog…I just like my tele to be all stored and ready on demand. :)

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  21. Laura

    Canadian TV may produce some stodge, I couldn’t say – but I really, really love Trailer Park Boys – one of my favourite shows ever.

  22. TimT

    Why do the Canadians produce so many children’s television shows anyway? Is it something to do with government funding (Canadian children television units get comparatively more than in the States/England?) It’s always been a bit of a mystery to me, albeit a pleasant one (I’ve always enjoyed some of their children’s tv shows).

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