If after so many years of discussion and debate, of clear and cogent argument, 'radical' men could persist with their line of reason that women had no specific grievances and what minor 'difficulties' did exist would be ironed out after men had fixed the world for themselves, one would have to be a dunce or a masochist to pursue a policy of trying to change men's minds. That women should stop talking to men about what was to be done, and start talking to each other, was a strategy that gained in popularity among the Pankhursts over the incident of the Pankhurst Hall.