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12 responses to “Privacy, anonymity, pseudonymity, outing, accountability: where are the boundaries?”

  1. T

    I didn’t know about the Western Australian website. I really hope it helps and protects children, I really do. Sadly, I don’t have much confidence in that – I think it makes it too easy for people to forget just who does the majority of child abuse (hint: it’s not strangers jumping out of bushes, and it’s not always possible to know who it is).

    I remember a while ago a family member who found out that she lived 45 minutes away from Denis Fergusson and had a little freak out, calling for him to be shot and wailing about the safety of her kids. But that same level of concern certainly didn’t translate when I tried to tell her about my father/her brother-in-law, who lives just next door to her children, often babysits them, and who abused me and other girls for years (and I don’t doubt still does).

    I’m just not sure how much good that sort of initiative will do considering the amount of double-think in the community at large.

  2. Jadey

    re: sex offender registries

    There is no empirical evidence that I am aware of (and trust me, I have LOOKED – recently did my thesis on a related issue and have been staying abreast of the literature) which has ever found any support for public registries or community notification schemes for sex offenders. Typically these services do not actually provide the relevant information that community members would need to increase their awareness in a meaningful way of the potential threat posed (i.e., the offender’s victim preference, actuarial risk level, information on how to watch for grooming behaviours) nor do people tend to even access the registries – they just like to know they are there.

    On the other hand, hounding an offender out their home, preventing them from being employed, making access to treatment and social support impossible are very good ways of increasing empirically-supported risk factors for new offenses. For all that we hate sex offenders and fear being sexually victimized, we sure do a good job of not helping anything. (“We” as in general public, media, politicians – not necessarily individual community groups or members who actually do good work in some areas).

  3. Mindy

    There is an awful case in the papers at the moment of a Zumba teacher in a small US town who was working as a sex worker on the side. She has been charged and her client list has been released. Unfortunately for some men not involved with her, some of her clients had quite common names and several men have been ‘outed’ by having the same name as a client. I find this problematic for a number of reasons – I don’t think sex work should be criminialised for a start – and I can’t think of any good reason to publish her client list except to embarrass the men involved. But the damage done to families and relationships is far far worse than visiting a sex worker IMHO.

    I have just finished The Fifth Estate. I quie enjoyed it and would recommend it if you were thinking of reading it.

  4. angharad

    Does it come down to the old punching up vs punching down question? I mean anonymity should be a tool to protect the (relatively) powerless against the (relatively) powerful. The (relatively) powerful should not be using it to abuse the (relatively) powerless. Grey areas, to my mind, arise through misunderstandings of those boundaries.

  5. Chris

    and I can’t think of any good reason to publish her client list except to embarrass the men involved.

    I don’t disagree with what you said, but I believe that the client list was released because the men on it are also under investigation and the names were released in the context that it is likely they will also be charged. She illegally recorded the men so the situation is a bit clouded as they are potentially both victims and offenders.

    I kind of doubt that the sex offender registry will in practice help much, and it may even make people complacent (ie there’s no one registered living nearby so people think they don’t need to educate their children on potential dangers).

    I did read in the comments on one site a suggestion that sounded reasonable – make it much easier for people to check on other people to see if they have been convicted of a crime. Given that these matters are on the public record anyway it wouldn’t be a significant change in privacy and it would enable people to do some cursory checks before allowing others to babysit or visit neighbours, new friends etc.

  6. Orlando

    T, I’m so sorry.

  7. T

    Thanks Orlando and Tigtog. It’s a thing that happened. I just wish it wasn’t relevant or common.

    On the topic of free speech, I’m sure many of you know how I feel about the predditors issue in particular. In a more general view though, I am quite interested in the differences between what I have heard called the ‘free-market’ version of free speech and the ‘town hall’ version of free speech. The former seems to be the form that most people talk about, particularly in the context of the internet. But I personally feel that if one truly is committed to the values that free speech springs from – equality, etc – then that system is inherently flawed. It just ends up meaning that the most privileged control the dialogue.

  8. SunlessNick

    Even without the slippery slope argument, concerns about vigilantism and mistaken identity are not entirely misplaced, surely?

    That’s generally been the result in Britain when lists of (suspected rather than convicted, in some cases) sex offenders have been published. Along with the occasional confusion of the words paedophile and paediatrician.

    I’m not positing this as an argument winner or anything, but such concerns are indeed valid.

    T, seconding that Tigtog and Orlando said.

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