Article written by Lauredhel

Lauredhel is an Australian woman and mother with a disability. She blogs about social justice, reproductive justice, freedom from violence, the use and misuse of language, medical science, being disabled, her garden, and whatever else pops into her head.

Lauredhel also blogs at FWD/Forward (feminists with disabilities), scribbles at her personal dreamwidth journal Selective and Arbitrary, and co-moderates Hollaback Australia. She joined Hoyden About Town in 2007.

22 responses to “Feminism and birth in Australia: moving from stat-wrangling towards a reproductive choice perspective”

  1. Demelza

    the percentage of homebirths in NZ is a lot higher (I dont knwo the actual stats). 98% of births are attended by a midwife and we can choose to have a midwife and ob/gyn or a gp as our lead maternity carer for our pregnancy and 6 weeks following, our system is not perfect but homebirth is considered to be quite normal.

    the NZ College of Midwives is this year focusing on every birth being a normal birth, that is with the least medical intervention necessary, this does not mean giving birth without any help, it just means not intervening unless necessary

  2. lilacsigil

    I find it particularly revolting that they will carry on like this while removing obstetric services from rural areas (let alone remote areas that never had obstetric services). If they’re so worried about births not under their jurisdiction, maybe they should, oh, I don’t know, start by providing appropriate services to the women who actually want their services before attacking women who don’t?

    *Train more obstetricians
    *Train more GPs in obstetrics and anaesthetics
    *Get the hell out of the private hospitals of the inner city and into rural and outer suburban areas
    *Support the obstetrics staff who are already there, stressed and overworked, by providing relieving services and on-site education and training (or locums so that regional staff can go to training without leaving women with a four hour drive to hospital – and that’s just in rural Victoria, which is not that big)

    In other words, they should get their house in order and provide services where they are wanted, rather than wasting time, money and good will trumping up evidence to turn women away from other choices.

  3. blue milk

    It is rather telling to see how much the conservative sides of media (and the doctors they interview) fear the notion of women learning for themselves dangerous knowledge from the Internet like… how to “measure the uterus to calculate the due date and how to work out if the baby is breech”. Goodness, how absurd that women might be able to do something as specialised as palpate their own bodies and interpret what they’re feeling.

    In every aspect of women’s reproductive health there has always been such outrage and fear-mongering at the idea of women/girls learning about their bodies for themselves – this is the same reason why girls aren’t routinely taught about cervical fluids in order to understand and predict their own fertility. Teenagers would run amok with such information thinking they could have sex, and women would be sure to stuff up the calculations with their tiny pea-brains.

  4. Liz

    “All that matters is a healthy baby” is code for “You are an incubator and your right to bodily autonomy is less important than the contents of your uterus”. Women don’t lose the right to choose what happens to their body just because a baby is coming out of it any more than they lose it when a pregnancy begins. Unfortunately there seems to be a huge blindspot when it comes to birth, and many feminists who take for granted that access to contraception and abortion are feminist projects don’t seem to make the logical connection that so is what happens at the other end of pregnancy.

  5. Jill-- Unnecesarean

    “…it is most typically flung down as a trump card by those who show by their other actions that they couldn’t give a shit about women in Ethiopia or anywhere else, and that they are completely out of other arguments. ”

    It has always reminded me of the old “Eat your goddamn peas– don’t you know there are starving children in Africa?” Is it really about the world’s children who live in poverty or does it stem from an authoritarian fear of dissent and/or not feeling appreciated for the peas that were put on the table?

    Jill– Unnecesarean’s last blog post..MRSA Infects 18 New Moms and 19 Newborns at Boston’s Beth Israel

  6. SunlessNick

    Even if they are all true** (and the official stats will come out one day): unfortunately, stillbirth is a horrible, horrible fact of life. - Lauredhel

    Even if they are ALL true, you’ve still shown that that’s below the statistical prediction. Especially taking high-risk births into account, which is the obvious course when talking about cases that ended in death.

    In every aspect of women’s reproductive health there has always been such outrage and fear-mongering at the idea of women/girls learning about their bodies for themselves - blue milk
    If you want to take a purely evidence-based structural approach: what we need is a lot more midwives, and societal/legal/financial support for midwifery-led care -Lauredhel

    I’d count these two aspects as part and parcel of the same thing. If Australia is like the UK, most midwives are women, especially those in the higher levels of the profession; meanwhile, while I couldn’t say whether most ob/gyn doctors are male or female, the authority in the profession certainly tends male. So I think the distrust of the patients and the midwifery profession is the same distrust.

  7. SunlessNick

    They don’t want their house in order; they want more control.

    It’s superstition. They can’t stand the idea of such a process as pregnancy and reproduction being centred on women, because that makes it more mysterious to them. Cultish. Which isn’t to say they’ll sanctify it at the starting end, when they’re regulating whether women can control when and how it starts.

  8. orlando

    I agree that we need to make more of the bodily autonomy issue. It’s so common to read long arguments about abortion, rape, contraception, childbirth, and not see the point come up at all. Ultimately, however, it is the only point that matters, over-riding all other considerations. We need to turn it into a chant we just keep returning to whenever someone tries to distract. If you are human, you own your body.

  9. P.P.

    It’s more simple than superstition. There are a couple of significant developments in human thought that this need to control women/women’s reproductive freedom can be traced back to; the desire to own private property, and the awareness of paternity. Some say the awareness of the finality of death also contributed.
    When men first got onto the idea of owning land, it led to the desire to keep said land in their own family. In order to ensure that the child that came out of his woman was indeed his, all kinds of restrictions had to be placed on women, cos there was no dna testing obviously.
    When society became medicalised so too did midwifery. The early medical/midwifery schools were dudecentric and inaccessible to midwives and other women, most of whom were poor and illiterate, so gradually all the wisdom and knowledge of assisting other women to give birth, began to disappear.
    So this can be put down to the need of the patriarchal state to control the means of reproduction, women being those means, in order to control the distribution of land/wealth. ( de Beauvoir, S.& Firestone, S).
    Now I would argue that the state also has a vested interest in making sure women continue in their role as breeders because of the need for new generations of cannon fodder for their wars over resources.

    I’d really love to see childbirth return to being the domain of women only. Those in power seem to have instilled such a strong fear in women, and undermined our confidence in our own ability to deal with birth and help each other through the process. Then there is Beck’s theory of a “risk society” at play here too, as well as that old patriarchal belief that the baby’s health and safety is of more importance than that of the woman who is carrying that baby. Even though western birth is so medicalised and beyond our control, we still blame ourselves for every little problem, because society blames us for every little problem, even though so many of the medical interventions that are foisted on us, actually screw up the birth process.
    The O H &S issues that the state goes on about is just smoke and mirrors; it’s about the need to control us and it won’t go away so long as we have a state/patriarchal society.

    Also, we seem to forget that globally, over half a million women still die in childbirth every year.

  10. While I agree with most of what has been said here already, I just wanted to say that I don’t think the fear of women knowing the “super secret squirrel stuff” about their own pregnancies is *only* a feminist issue. By that I mean that the doctor profession is, in general, *always* distrustful and threatened by people knowing about their own conditions. It is definitely a power issue and, while it is more acute in the case of women taking power over their own bodies, it is an issue that effects both sexes to an extent.

  11. M-H

    Excellent post and comments. Thanks everyone. One of the things that annoys me most about this argument is how the media buy into the obs argument, and don’t do the homework about the way midwifery works in NZ and UK. In Aus it’s all about about a bizzare construction of ‘risk management’ and insurance, not about safety in any real sense, and certainly not about women.

  12. SungaiKecil

    Thank you, now can you get this published in the national print media please.

    *sigh*

  13. Demelza

    I have had a midwife for each of my three births and am again having one for this pregnancy, I have chosen to give birth in a hospital setting due to other factors, but obstetricaly I dont need a dr to help me birth my children. the system here isnt perfect but does allow for more choice and more control for the women. the documentary by rikki Lake the business of being born shows what has happened to birth in America, its well worth watching. For me it showed that although the system in NZ isnt perfect its a darn sight better for mums than in America.

  14. Mama Thrift

    Finally! Thank you for such an articulate post. The media circus that has unfolded in the last week has been truly sickening.

    Mama Thrift’s last blog post..An Ass of an Egg

  15. Pagan Rach

    Ah, a voice of reason. Love you women!

  16. kez

    Excellent post, thank you. After the recent media frenzy, it is very refreshing to see somebody actually reading the stats and writing rationally on this issue.

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  18. S

    Thanks for a sane, sensible comment on this.

    In the interest of being the “side” that supports accurate information, it is probably worth recognising that some of these stillbirths would probably have been in cases of planned homebirth transferred to hospital. However, this adds it’s own complexity. As you have stated, the preventability of the death is nigh on impossible to establish. Also, there is probably no way to establish whether the interventions the may have occurred on transfer would have affected the outcomes.

    yours in hope that some more sanity prevails next week…

  19. Jetty

    Bodily autonomy? Maybe when offenders are prosecuted for violating consent laws. When complaints about possible violations which have gone to the HRC are then reported to the police, or are directly reported to the police, we may see some change.

    My personal pet peeve is that I’m repeatedly seeing, over and over again, 39 weeks being presented as term by docs. and their media dogs. Like this little gem from msnbc.com ” When fertility treatments become frightening: Carrying multiple fetuses can increase risks for both mother and babies.” It states that “Women pregnant with one baby deliver at 39 weeks, on average.” Not without intervention, they’re not! And interventions carry material risk, and according to 2006 statistics, much more risk than no interventions at all, hence all the dead babies. I’d extend bodily autonomy to the right to having access to up to date, comprehensive, and factual information on the material risks and benefits of any procedure, which will not usually be provided before procedures, although medicos are legally obligated to do so.

    The problem is though, that if bodily autonomy is achieved in the maternity system, it will spread throughout the healthcare system, and the medical system does not want that can of worms opened.

    So where are the investigative reporters writing up the fact that doctors are not obtaining consent?

  20. rainne

    Oh,lauredhel, I love you. When my husband read me the original scaremongering article I said to him, I bet one of my blogs picks this up soon. Meaning you. And you never disappoint, saving me from trawling exactly the same statistics (first questions I asked: what are the stillbirth stats for hospital? And what % of home births doesthis 4 represent? I have no idea, he said,the article doesn’t say. Quel surprise, said I.). Thank you thank you thank you. It’s interesting that even the 4, if true, is under the statistical prediction, isn’t it?

    I’m off topic, because you’re right,the topic is bodily autonomy. I agreed to a hospital birth with my first because my husband was SO uncomfortable with homebirth. But I did feel like it should have been entirely my choice, and that I was giving him something by agreeing to the compromise. If I feel like that about the father of the baby itself, I can’t imagine ceding to a nameless faceless ‘society’ about these things.

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