AntiFeminist Bingo 2

by Lauredhel on February 18, 2008

in Meta, gender & feminism

I now present:

Anti-feminist Bingo: The Sequel!

Enjoy your troll-mocking.

More men than women died on the Titanic! I’d love it if a babe forced herself on me sexually Men do all the dirty, dangerous jobs. The Courts are all biased towards women. But men don’t get to wear skirts!
Rape just ain’t what it used to be.

…hysterical…

Hard-working men built this country, and the internets too. You women ought to thank us. Things are changing, gradually. The world will explode if it changed as fast as you feminists want. All this talk about rape culture stops women being responsible for themselves.
A male’s purpose in life is to spread his seed. What use is it to me to care about other people’s issues? “You should …” Get off your bum and spend your time on more important causes. Some feminist somewhere, once upon a time, hurt my feelings, and that’s the most important thing.
I know, it’s bad, but I’m too old to change.

I got abused for opening a door for a lady.

Why isn’t there a Men’s Studies class?

…feminist echo chamber If anything, we live in a matriarchy.

Feminists oppress white men.

Women should provide men’s shelters! I have a friend who is a woman and she thinks you are wrong. I mow the lawn and fix things, so it’s fair. You’re fat and your husband’s a pussy!


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If you’d like this in an image form to repost on your blog, you can find it at flickr, here.. Alternatively, you can pull the source of this page, and copy the bit from [table] to [/table] (in angle brackets, not square, of course!)

With special acknowledgements to: Heraclitus (Jeff), RachelPhilPa, Doctor Science, bluefish A, junk science, dmg, QueenMab, thebewilderness, Allison, leontokanova, and fixious.

The original Anti-feminist Bingo is here.((right here at Hoyden About Town – see this comment for a laugh~tigtog))

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{ 27 comments }

1
Deborah February 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm

Once a month I know that I just shouldn’t take anything you say seriously.

Deborah’s last blog post..Happy birthday No Right Turn

2
Lauredhel February 18, 2008 at 1:39 pm

Definitely – “Is it that time of the month?” was in the first instalment.

Lauredhel’s last blog post..AntiFeminist Bingo 2

3
Cara February 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm

I’ve gotten quite a few of these. Including “you’re fat and your husband’s a pussy!” Also known as: “you’re ugly and I bet your husband doesn’t even exist!”

Cara’s last blog post..Italian Police Interrogate Woman After Legal Abortion, Confiscate Fetus

4
Deborah February 18, 2008 at 2:16 pm

It’s the little rider telling you that you simply can’t be taken seriously that, ah, appeals to me.

What about – “You’re not a real feminist: you’re married / wear lipstick / shave your legs / stay at home with the kids / fill in whatever activity is allegedly not feminist.”

Deborah’s last blog post..Water woes

5
Beppie February 18, 2008 at 2:22 pm

Deborah– that can be combined with the door-opening one to make the perfect catch-22: if you don’t want doors opened, you are dismissing men who are trying to be polite to you, but if you accept that men open doors for you, then you’re not a real feminist, and everything you say is worthless.

6
Lauredhel February 18, 2008 at 4:37 pm

What about – “You’re not a real feminist: you’re married / wear lipstick / shave your legs / stay at home with the kids / fill in whatever activity is allegedly not feminist.”

Ah, the free square “You should…” encompasses a number of ills! It is meant to be applied to all those situations where the privileged d00d tries to instruct you on what feminism should mean for you, and tell you exactly where you’re going wrong.

7
dave February 18, 2008 at 6:04 pm

I have a skirt… err… a kilt, which has been appropriately gendered to be all manly.

Interesting to contrast ‘Why isn’t there a mens studies course?’ with the recent article about how Womens Studies courses have become Gender Studies – there may have been some point about the absence of studying cultural masculinity (one now acknowledged in the change of name, but that was never why it the anti-feminist brought it up (why, the last thing your average anti-feminist wanted was to have their masculinity analysed), and now its no longer even reflective of reality.

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Deborah February 18, 2008 at 6:11 pm

It is meant to be applied to all those situations where the privileged d00d tries to instruct you on what feminism should mean for you, and tell you exactly where you’re going wrong.

But… but… they’re just helping us, like nice guys do.

Deborah’s last blog post..Water woes

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tigtog February 18, 2008 at 7:22 pm

The post has been updated with details of how to share the bingo card elsewhere, either as a text-table or as an image [link]

Dave, I was reading something just yesterday about the way that compartmentalising Ethnic Studies and Womens/Gender studies as separate from the core curriculum was actually just a way of ghetto-ising them, in total contrast to the claims that the existence of such departments is a mark of privileging minority studies over the study of white men (which study of course is actually the core of the core curriculum).

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Lauredhel February 18, 2008 at 8:50 pm

I’m a little wary of the move to “Gender Studies”; not completely anti-, but wary. My impression is that in some cases at least, that switch goes along with a move to repudiate second-wave feminism, with all that that implies about identity study and oppression, and a move towards less critical readings of third-wave/postmodern gender theory.

This was certainly my impression from the “It should be gender studies!” proponents in my women’s studies classes.

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tigtog February 19, 2008 at 12:36 am

Someone without a real email address (although thanks for at least making the fake addy at thisIsNotARealEmail.com) submitted this link in their comment, which definitely fits the bingo theme:


Image source: xkcd.com

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tigtog February 19, 2008 at 12:44 am

PS to the fake addy commentor: please do comment again with a valid addy. Perhaps read the Commenting Guidelines first?

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tigtog February 19, 2008 at 4:19 pm

Hahahaha! A site that shall not be named has linked to this and accused Hoyden About Town of “copycatting” the original anti-feminist bingo.

Anti-feminist trolls really should do better research (and those who trust them as authorities about feminism should be aware of how little research they tend to do) – Lauredhel is the author of the original and she linked to it right there in the post above! And the link is on this very blog!

Wotta buncha maroons.

14
ceejay1968 February 19, 2008 at 4:23 pm

Brilliant!

ceejay1968’s last blog post..Nagin “First Vagina-Friendly Mayor”

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Lauredhel February 19, 2008 at 4:32 pm

The “copycat” thing? LULZ.

I don’t for a second pretend that the whole bingo concept is original – what numpty would? – but that particular trollweed seems to think that I ripped off Antifem Bingo 1 with this post.

MRAs: Brains Not Included.

16
Dave Bath February 19, 2008 at 7:23 pm

On “More women than men died on the titanic”
Without making comment about “pure” M v F survival rates, the interesting thing for femmobolshies is that MONEY played a significant role on female survival on the Titanic, while played less of a role for men. The moral of the story is, if you are female, don’t be poor.

If you have a decent browser with flash viewing, look at this from IBM. Survival rates (%)
M: 1st class: 34; 2nd: 14; 3rd: 17; Crew: 22
F: 1st class: 97; 2nd: 88; 3rd: 46; Crew: 87

Dave Bath’s last blog post..Consultation on ratifying UN Convention re Disabilities

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tigtog February 19, 2008 at 8:03 pm

Good catch, Dave. I’ve known that most poor women on the Titanic died for many years now, but I think it’s still not generally known.

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tigtog February 21, 2008 at 5:44 pm

Ah, our shy commentor above with the fake email addy has explained (via another comment in moderation) why sie is reluctant to give out a real email address when commenting on blogs. I do understand the concern about whether email addresses might actually be onsold to spammers by the unscrupulous amongst the blogging fraternity.

May I recommend gmail.com as a web-based email service? Their built-in anti-spam measures are excellent, you can set all sorts of filters yourself as well, and any spam that does get through will not have a real email addy of yours.

If you’re still unwilling to set up such an email account for blog commenting, please do send us any suggestions/feedback you like using either the contact form (see sidebar) or by sending another comment into moderation limbo.

19
Shelley June 25, 2008 at 1:37 pm

I think this needs to be added:
“If women’s abilities are equal to men’s, then where are all the famous women of history that invented/discovered/founded/created/ things….”

“Statistics on rape and violence against women are SO exagerrated! I mean, c’mon. I’m a man & I don’t know a single guy who rapes or beats up women. Who are these “supposed” abusers.”

“Men fought to make this country great, and now all the gals & the other “minorities” are trying to take over”.

20
Lauredhel June 25, 2008 at 3:30 pm

Shelley: yes, I’ve got “all the dangerous jobs” and “built this country”, but not “it was us who fought for it” or “what did women ever do”.

The first card has “sexual assault is rare, you’re just paranoid” – not quite the same, but similar.

21
Klaus K June 25, 2008 at 4:23 pm

“I’m a little wary of the move to “Gender Studies”; not completely anti-, but wary. My impression is that in some cases at least, that switch goes along with a move to repudiate second-wave feminism, with all that that implies about identity study and oppression, and a move towards less critical readings of third-wave/postmodern gender theory.”

I think you’re right to be wary and not anti-. That is how a lot of feminist scholars who are now working within a Gender Studies context seem to feel also (from my limited survey).

I’ve taught a bit in a Gender Studies department, and there was much criticism of second-wave positions BUT repudiation is not the right word. There is a strong sense of extending and complementing research and philosophy without undermining certain fundamental commitments. In fact, the ‘postmodernists’ in the department were also the most sympathetic to classic second-wave arguments and those reading the likes of Derrida and Butler were also the people reading De Beauvoir and McKinnon.

The inclusion of critical masculinity units is also generally regarded as complementary, in the same way as critical whiteness studies is seen as complementary to an anti-racist perspective.

Having said all this, I understand where a lot of the criticisms of the transition are coming from: the move to Gender Studies makes sense when it comes to research and teaching, but some of the political implications are problematic.

(apologies for picking up this comment and responding so much later, I missed this thread the first time around)

22
Klaus K June 25, 2008 at 4:30 pm

Sorry, I mean ‘MacKinnon’.

23
Ryan Thompson November 22, 2008 at 7:25 pm

I love the bingo card. It needs to be a JPG, though, so we can save it :D

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tigtog November 23, 2008 at 10:05 am

Ryan, you should be able to do a screen-save and then crop it in an image editor to get your JPG, if you really want!

Or else you could just use the already existing JPG that lauredhel has linked to in the post?

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Evo January 8, 2009 at 6:35 am

Sorry I’m so late on this. This thing is amazing. I wish I knew these bingo cards existed a few months ago when I was being berated by a (now former) friend for being a “feminazi” (which term I find incredibly offensive for a multitude of reasons). Anyhoo, courtesy of this ex-frenemy, here are some I’ve heard: “i feel sorry for your battered husband” or “trying to oppress men isn’t equality” and “why don’t you stop working at that job you hate (because it’s pink ghetto work that is basically my best, yet incredibly demeaning, option) and go work for the cause on Capitol Hill if you care so much?!!”

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Ryan January 8, 2009 at 1:12 pm

What is “pink ghetto”? Is that a regional term? :D

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kathmandu.dreamwidth.org/ September 25, 2009 at 5:57 am

Ryan: “Pink ghetto” is a phrase I’ve more usually seen as “pink-collar ghetto”.

See, at least in U.S. parlance, ‘white-collar’ is the category of professional careers, the kind you need a college degree for, like doctor, lawyer, architect… jobs traditionally occupied by men. ‘Blue-collar’ refers to the category of skilled and unskilled physical labor: factory worker, truck driver, construction laborer, car mechanic, mason, farm worker… also traditionally occupied by men, but more working-class. ‘Pink-collar’ is a more recently developed term, and it describes jobs stereotyped as female: secretary, nurse, cosmetician/hairdresser, preschool teacher, etc. The thing about that is not only are these jobs paid less than stereotypically-male jobs using the same skills, but once you’re in one it’s very hard to get out. If you get a secretary job to put yourself through business school, once you earn your MBA you cannot expect to be promoted within the same company, and even to apply for a junior-manager position at other companies you’d better hide the secretary experience, because once people identify you as a secretary they will just assume you’re not capable of anything else. So it’s like living in a ghetto: impoverishing, and trapped by other people’s prejudices.

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