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tigtog (aka Viv) is the founder of this blog. She lives in Sydney, Australia: husband, 2 kids, cat, house, garden, just enough wine-racks and (sigh) far too few bookshelves. You can read more about Viv on her bio page.

14 responses to “And still they defend him”

  1. Adelheid
    From troll-wrangling

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    Why can’t more forceful action be taken against the anti-vaxers like the Australian Vaccination Network?

  2. Liz Ditz

    One of my blogging habits is to collate pro and con posts on a particular issue. One reason to do is that each blog has its own set of commenters and often the comments reveal aspects of the issue previously not considered elsewhere.

    Today’s issue is the UK’s General Medical Council’s ruling on Andrew Wakefield.

    I’ve included this post in the list.

    The list can be found at

    http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2010/01/andrew-wakefield-dishonesty-misleading-conduct-and-serious-professional-misconduct.html

  3. crankynick

    I nearly smashed my television the other day when I flicked it on to see two antivaxers getting the royal treatment from that pair of idiots on Channel 10′s morning show.

    They make me very, very angry.

  4. They are describing their own children, in public and often with the child right there beside them, as “soulless” and emotionally/physically destructive creatures who have ruined their dreams of a normal family life, as children who have had their “real self” kidnapped by autism.

    Oh my sainted aunt. The “changeling” myth lives on. Have they tried any of the traditional remedies for having a child “stolen by the faeries” to see whether those are effective against autism? I mean, these things are traditional, they have a dedicated history, so they must work, amirite?

    [Disclaimer: the above is extreme sarcasm, hyperbole, and ironic co-option of the pre-modern = perfect myth adopted by any number of pro-woo practitioners. In no way am I advocating any of these traditional remedies for changeling children, many of which would be counted as child abuse.]

  5. Hi from a mom of 2 – I’ve been following Hoyden About Town and wanted to say hello. That is some corrupt medicine! My husband and I followed all the controversy when our kids were born and decided to go ahead with the vaccinations because the science seemed sketchy . . . didn’t realize it was THAT sketchy. And such a petty little reason for buying fake medical research. Is this guy’s study the only basis for all the anti-vaccine sentiment (chickenpox, etc)?

  6. Stitch Sista

    I am a delayed vaxer. For a time I was a fence sitter. My firstborn had an extreme reaction to his 2 mo vax and so I waited until he was older to commence. I have read some anti vax stuff but to be honest as a busy mother of three it’s hard to digest or really know WHAT to believe. It’s a bloody minefield trying to do right by your child. In the end I have waited until my children were bigger and stronger. My personal and totally unscientific belief is that I would prefer to vax a developed immune system. Obviously I have that luxury living in a first world country where my children have not been in care and would be unlikely to be exposed to many of these illnesses.

    Anyway I digress, what I wanted to comment on was the reference to diet. I wondered last year whether my son was actually on the spectrum. I had amazing results removing gluten from his diet and he was gluten free for at least 11 months. I will never know for sure if it was a gluten thing or a development thing, but it’s a ‘don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater’ thing. Yes perhaps Wakefield deals in pseudoscience, but I don’t think it’s a big leap to suggest that food and diet can influence behaviour, so I’m not convinced that that’s an aspect that need be discredited.

  7. Adelheid
    From troll-wrangling

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    http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/10-reasons-why-parents-question-vaccination#comments – this is the kind of people we are up against – I am really dissapointed in the posters there called “Tracy” and “Anita”

  8. makomk

    I was going to put a comment here, but it looks like you’ve covered pretty much everything there is to say. Thank you for writing this.

    Oh, except to note: that attitude towards their own kids with autism by the anti-vaxers? Also why I and probably a lot of people are very cautious about which autism-related advocacy groups are safe to touch even with a ten-foot bargepole. (This includes the ones that aren’t anti-vaccination and don’t push dubious “cures”.)

  9. IrrationalPoint

    Excellent post. I think it’s important to note how much of the anti-vax panic is connected to anti-autism panic, and as you pointed out, that’s very much present in the anti-vax rhetoric.

    –IP

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