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  1. Megpie71
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    I have to ask – did you try the “Gaspode the Wonder Dog” trick of repeating to people the things you want their conscience to say to them when they ignore you? Stuff like “Who’s a right sexist bastard? I am, aren’t I? What am I? I’m a right sexist bastard. I should be ashamed of myself.” It’d be interesting to find out whether the trick worked.

    (Gaspode is a dog on the Discworld who can talk. But everyone knows dogs can’t talk, so when Gaspode talks in front of them, people’s brains tend to discard the evidence as a statistical anomaly, and parse the speech as part of their internal monologue. Gaspode has learned to parley this into a neat trick for getting the results he wants, by saying things like “throw the doggy a biscuit” and such.)

  2. Aphie
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    Megpie – BWAhahahaha! XD
    You disappoint me, shonias!

  3. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help
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    Megpie, that is the BEST idea.

    shonias – ah, but if they see you, you can then assume a surprised air and either start talking like nothing had happened, or ask why it’s only then (ie. post-Gaspode) that they’re responding to you.

    Just make sure you have some coffee from that unused machine to splash on their shoes if you do need to make a run for it.

  4. Chris
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    A Fairfax journo asked the panel of 4 women, led by Jane Caro, if they were in favour of quotas for women on boards. Janet Ramey, VP of technical services for Cisco, responded first, discussing the importance of supporting girls and young women into tech areas, but ultimately talking about meritocracy and the best candidate for the job.

    Do you remember where the other women on the panel were from? Eg were they from tech companies?

    should point out that Cisco is not as bad as many in the gender equality department, heaps of the women I saw there were actually Cisco staff, and they have more senior executive women than many other companies.

    If they’re like other large tech companies I’ve seen, then they probably strongly encourage women from the technical fields to move into management. I can sort of understand why they do it but it also has the side effect of even further depleting the number of women in the highly technical roles and perpetuates the stereotype.

  5. Ariane
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    Do you remember where the other women on the panel were from? Eg were they from tech companies?

    One was from the parent company of a bunch of telco resellers originally, now in NFP space. The other had a varied background, technically savvy but not tech industry.

    If they’re like other large tech companies I’ve seen, then they probably strongly encourage women from the technical fields to move into management. I can sort of understand why they do it but it also has the side effect of even further depleting the number of women in the highly technical roles and perpetuates the stereotype.

    Yeah, there is a bit of that, but there’s probably more at the middle management level than the executive level. I also don’t think there’s enough people in management to account for the 3% representation in speakers.

    Also, in terms of representation at the conference, the people attending and speaking were a mix of high-range tech and management folks, so it probably wouldn’t have all that much impact on the numbers at the conference itself.

  6. Chris
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    Yeah, there is a bit of that, but there’s probably more at the middle management level than the executive level. I also don’t think there’s enough people in management to account for the 3% representation in speakers.

    True, and managers tend to speak a lot at these sorts of conferences. Sadly I wouldn’t be surprised if there is less than 3% of women in technical roles at a lot of network companies (especially if you exclude documentation and project management related roles).

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