Whoydensday: Hugohugohugo! Moffmoffmoff!

Can’t believe that we didn’t mention/celebrate this news last week. Steven Moffat won his third consecutive Hugo for his work on Doctor Who, this time for the Season 3 episodeBlink (previously he won for Season 1’s The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and Season 2’s The Girl in the Fireplace.

So, resultant questions (careful with the spoilers for anything after The Unicorn And The Wasp for those of us Down Under who haven’t completed seeing season 4 yet (best just stick to episode titles for the later eps):

  1. Do you think he’ll win it again next year for his episodes in the 2008 season?
  2. What strengths and weaknesses do you think that the Moff will bring to his future role as series executive producer?
  3. What episodes do you really love or hate in this year’s season?
  4. What would you consider to be your favourite ever Whoverse episode?

Bonus question: which Whoverse inhabitants are absolutely necessary fellow travellers on the Hoyden OMGWTFBBQ!!! spaceship?



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  1. 1. I think he probably will, although I hope Russell T. Davies at least gets a nomination for Midnight, because that was an amazing script.
    2. Strengths– cool, creepy aliens, and cool timey-wimey stuff.
    Weaknesses– I’m concerned that some misogynist views he’s expressed in the past could come through in his writing when he has the chance to develop female companions more fully. Mind you, I think he has done a decent job with female characters so far, including in his S4 eps (with a few exceptions– but he’s no worse than Rusty in that regard), and I hope he keeps it up.
    3. I don’t really hate any of them, but The Doctor’s Daughter was the weakest one. I did particularly enjoy The Fires of Pompeii, The Unicorn and the Wasp, Midnight, and the Finale 3-parter though (I know it had its faults, but I loved it anyway). Really though, I thought that every episode aside from The Doctor’s Daughter was superb.
    4. The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and Human Nature/Family of Blood. I actually was hoping for the latter to win this year’s Hugo. Oh, and since it’s also in the Whoverse, Captain Jack Harkness from Torchwood S1 is also an all-time favourite.

  2. Last night we watched a great two parter.
    ‘Silence in the Library’ and ‘Forest Of the Dead’
    which he wrote.
    I only cried a little bit, the neural feedback bits were very well done, creepy and sad, and Dr Song is all very intriguing.
    I agree that the ‘Doctors Daughter’ was a bit ehhh, so am happy to see some good gritty Doctor.
    We don’t have a TV so instead of waiting…
    One word or is it two?…download….

  3. Beppie, I’m glad Moff won it for Blink which has to be one of my all time favourite episodes, although I’m with you in that Human Nature/Family of Blood was at least as good and would have also been a deserving winner.
    coz, that 2 parter is a beaut. I’m sure that it will be nominated for next year’s Hugo. Midnight was also a cracker.
    I’m generally happy about Moff being given the helm: he obviously has some marvellous ideas, and being able to have a team working on most while he personally polishes just a few should give the new series a strong cool-creepy-alien and cool-timey-wimey edge that will set it apart, to use Beppie’s terminology. I also think he has a marvellous way with implied story arcs, so the story arcs that we do see on screen should also be well fleshed out with a bit of luck.
    As to who I want on the Hoyden spaceship, I simply can’t choose, and I don’t think we’ve got room for them all! For those who follow the ihasatardis LJ Community, I’d at least want the whole of Team SMASK.

  4. Tigtog, the reason I didn’t answer the bonus question is that I couldn’t choose either– I want everyone there. 🙂

  5. I thought Human Nature/ Family of Blood were horrible episodes. Too much of puppy Martha and puppy Nurse. I also didn’t think it flowed well at all. It should have been a clever one episode story and The Doctor’s Daughter should have been two.
    As to the Hoyden Spaceship: Donna, Martha, Donna, Jenny, Donna, Tosh and Donna.
    I have a fantasy in which I am chosen to do all the writing for Doctor Who. As far as I’m concerned Moffat is No. 2. I would be thrilled for any woman to get the job, especially if she was a feminist. Feminism + Science Fiction = EPIC.

  6. I love the library stuff. LOVE IT. You all are in for a treat. Blink and the ones where he turns human are some of my favourite eps. It’s the best disc of Series 3. LOVE Blink.
    1. I think he may win for “Silence in the Library”/”Forest of the Dead” but IIRC those are the only 2 he’s written this year, but they are damn good and were 2 of my favourites, until the last 3. Gah. Good season. RTD wanted to go out big.
    2. Moff definitely likes new characters and throws a lot in there for people to play with (square gun, etc) and likes new characters, etc, but he really likes to focus on other characters that aren’t the companion. Reinette, Blink is just brilliant, the Empty Child/Doctor Dances focused more on Captain Jack and the young woman. Same with the upcoming eps. He really just kind of shoves the companions to the side-yes they’re included, but I get the feeling that he’d rather they not be there.
    3. Covered my favourites in #2, can’t really say didn’t really hate any one. I don’t really like the sontarans. I think they’re kind of stupid and annoying.
    4. I think I covered this. Blink and the last 3, or if you’re gonna be sticklers-the last 2-parter “The Stolen Earth” and “Journey’s End.” But add “Turn Left” and it really does easily make a 3-parter. IMNSHO

  7. I’m actually somewhat behind on S4, but I’m pleased that Moff’s won twice (even if I vastly prefer Human Nature/FoB to Blink). It’s good to see that in terms of drama, the Hugos aren’t solely a US-only club.

  8. Oh, I am so glad someone else thought The Doctor’s Daughter was piss-weak. I was cranky for a lot of that episode. And I was a bit cranky about Agatha when I saw the promos (so sick of murder mysteries all over the bloody tv every week, and the promo was always followed by another promo for yet another bloody BBC AC remake), but the actual episode won me over. REALLY looking forward to this week’s story in the Library.

  9. Just going for these for the minute:
    What episodes do you really love or hate in this year’s season?
    Absolutely Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead. The finales were a wild ride, but … too many buts, and a big ol’ dealbreaker. Silence/Forest were more perfectly constructed, and didn’t have me shouting “Noooo!” at the screen repeatedly. Plus, I know others didn’t, but I very much liked the main guest star (and have enjoyed her previous work).
    Runnerup: tie Planet of the Ood and Unicorn and the Wasp.
    What would you consider to be your favourite ever Whoverse episode?
    Blink, absolutely, on the scary side, runnerup Empty Child. I also liked Girl in the Fireplace, The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit,
    Worst ever Who? Love & Monsters, FFS.
    Agree that Human Nature/Family of Blood doesn’t do it for me.
    Best Torchwood: Oh, I adore and hug and squeeze Captain Jack Harkness. Worst: Everything Changes, though there are quite a few contenders. Runnerup: Dead Man Whinging.
    Worst character? Owen. Can’t stand him. Why, why, why?

  10. &duck, I highly recommend getting the whole family sorted with dinner and ablutions well beforehand, and making sure that you tell everybody to REMEMBER TO BREATHE during the scary bits.

  11. 2. Moff definitely likes new characters and throws a lot in there for people to play with (square gun, etc) and likes new characters, etc, but he really likes to focus on other characters that aren’t the companion. Reinette, Blink is just brilliant, the Empty Child/Doctor Dances focused more on Captain Jack and the young woman. Same with the upcoming eps. He really just kind of shoves the companions to the side-yes they’re included, but I get the feeling that he’d rather they not be there.

    I wonder how much of that has been that he’s been writing his episodes virtually independently rather than as part of Rusty’s everyday band? He’s had to write scripts that won’t do anything with the Companions that jars against what Rusty did with them in the previous episode and what he’s got planned for them in the next.
    I also don’t feel that Donna is shoved to the side in the Library eps – (very careful phrasing alert) I know why it might appear that way, but think of the minutes that the camera actually spends on her.

  12. # What episodes do you really love or hate in this year’s season?
    I didn’t really like The unicorn and the wasp. Too much happened in the last 5 minutes and it seemed a bit messy. But I just can’t stop watching Midnight. It’s the only episode ever with an unnamed monster, it has a great diversity of characters, the horror was about the people rather than the monster, and it’s one of the few episodes that challenges the Doctor’s faith in humanity.
    # What would you consider to be your favourite ever Whoverse episode?
    Definitely Blink. First for the pretty lady, secondly for the brilliant concept of a quantum species, and the rest for having the Doctor as a periphery character and showing the effect he has on the people he meets but doesn’t travel with.

  13. Worst ever Who? Love & Monsters
    I think I must be the only person who liked this episode! I loved the metafictive approach, and the way that the whole thing functioned as a tribute to (pre-internet) fandom. I liked that the overall message seemed to be that the most important thing about liking the show is being able to form relationships with other people through it (which then allow you to explore other interests), while poking gentle fun at people who get so absorbed in it that they don’t seem to enjoy the show anymore. While I wouldn’t count it among my absolute favourites, I thought that it was clever and good fun, and I enjoy re-watching it from time to time. I know it’s widely reviled, however.
    I agree though, that Dead Man Walking was crap. I think that episode might be the most shite thing to ever come out of the new-Whoniverse.
    Oh, and since no one has mentioned it yet: my favourite SJA episode is Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane– which everyone should watch before they see Turn Left. Just sayin’. 😉

  14. I think I must be the only person who liked this episode!

    I just can’t… the paving stone wiped out any possible redeeming features, for me.

  15. I liked it too, Beppie. I had no problems with the paving stone solution at the time of watching, and when I read the various objections to it I understood the reason why that solution could be hated, but I still don’t share that reaction at a gut level.

  16. Oh god…Love & Monsters. BLECH
    As per my statement…I really do think that Moff is much more interested in developing new characters instead of working with pre-existing ones (minus the Doctor, of course, unless you’re looking at Blink, but really who cares about that one since it’s so bloody brilliant). I agree that Donna has more to do in the library eps then any other companion in Moff’s previous eps, but really she pales in comparison to River Song. He is obviously much more interested in her and working with her story arc. Same with the other lead characters. You do have to admit that Donna has less to do then they do. AT least IMO.

  17. Blink was certainly the most effective so far. There’s a big stone angel with a bowl right at the front of St Giles cathederal here in Edinburgh and kids were being carried out screaming for over a month…
    Library/Forests for me too, Planet of the Ood or Fires of Pompeii as runner up. Can’t say I’ve found any of Torchwood particularly good even after two series.

  18. Lauredhel–yeah, the paving stone is something I’d like to have scrubbed from my memory forever. Way to ruin my liking of Jeff Lynne and ELO, for that matter.
    HN/FOB is probably one of my favs, as is Satan Pit/Impossible Planet, if only for the great scene with the Doctor and Ida discussing religion. And Moffat…well, after the Rose obsession, I’m almost down with more new characters showing up. The whole arc became a Gordian knot.

  19. Hello again, Who fans! Bumping this thread up in the sidebar so we can discuss Silence In The Library now that it’s been aired in Oz.
    So, those who hadn’t seen it yet: what did you think?

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