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18 responses to “Girls Gone Wild or Wild Women? or: We Never Had Nasty Sluts When I Were A Lad”

  1. koipond

    The one thing that strikes me that you didn’t touch on, because there’s a lot here, is the rate at which indigenous women are being arrested. The fact that those numbers are going up hitting a 2 to 1 ration when compared to non indigenous arrest is doubly alarming.

  2. Helen

    Monster post Lauredhel!!
    (One for FF101?)
    Have these people emoting about “Girls Gorn Wild” never read any social histories of / primary documents from the Victorian era (the underclass, rather than the piano-leg-covering bourgeoisie we’re always reminded of?)
    Oh, and
    freelance photographer Marc Robertson, who has covered the event for five years…

    Oh REALLY. A “freelance photographer ” who repeatedly goes to photograph Schoolies. We have a word for people like him down here in Victoria – Toolies. “Come up to my studio darlin’, I’m a Freelance Photographer.”

  3. tigtog

    I’m glad you dug this one out of the drafts folder – so much meat for thought! The absolute horror of women acting “inappropriately” i.e. to amuse themselves rather than gratify men!

  4. DeusExMacintosh

    Obviously Marc Robertson has never been to a B&S ball…

  5. tigtog

    Noting Serena Williams has appealed against the hugeness of her fine for abusing the lines-judge, arguing that similar outbursts from men such as McEnroe have been treated much more leniently, and accusing the regulators of sexist bias (mind you, she seems to have neglected to account for the effects of inflation when comparing the fines).

    While I think that a large part of the nine-day-wonder about her abusive outburst was simply that we haven’t seen Serena do that before in years and years on the pro circuit, I also think that the idea that “women shouldn’t act like that” played a significant part.

  6. tigtog

    It will be interesting to see some figures from the nationwide campaign on drunken violence starting this weekend across Australia and New Zealand. What will be the gender and race breakdown of those arrested/cautioned?

  7. Mindy

    Yes, got to worry about those girls on the balcony, dressed in bikini tops and little shorts. Anyone would think they were on holidays at the beach or something.

  8. orlando

    I love Eva Cox. I don’t think I’ve ever heard her make a statement that wasn’t precisely the voice of good sense we needed to hear.

  9. SunlessNick

    And so, we see that very little has changed in the past hundred years. Each generation panics about the “masculinisation” of women in similar ways. Young women are thought to be newly violent, newly drunk, newly sexual, newly non-conformist with compulsory domesticity.

    Hell, a tablet was found from ancient Egypt decrying immodest women (along with disrespectful children, inattendance at temples, both corrupt governments and distrust of authority complete with the non-recognition of the contradiction, and other Foxy talking points; with surely the end of the world being nigh).

  10. The Black Cat

    “Popular culture carries the momentum, bringing feisty women to our television screens: Buffy, Roseanne, and Seinfeld’s Elaine.”

    I just love that! Yes, as soon as women all over the world saw Elaine on Seinfeld the rate at which they were violent, drunk, promiscuous, unladylike or criminal just increased exponentially, don’cha know? And don’t get me started on the ones running around doing karate kicks and staking people through the heart. WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END?

  11. KM

    Mindy @9…

    Personally I was more concerned (troll) about the boys without shirts on. I mean, they are LITERALLY half-dressed! Why oh why must our young men feel the need to objectify themselves in this way? Clearly they are slaves to the pornification of pop culture, have no self-esteem and feel that baring their flesh to get girls to like them is the only route to self-actualisation.

    Teh horrors.

  12. The Amazing Kim

    And don’t get me started on the ones running around doing karate kicks and staking people through the heart.

    Well, we have to do *something* with the white picket fences now.

    Excellent brilliant post. I’ll be using those temperence quotes frequently, I’m sure.

  13. Linda Radfem

    The newspapers don’t seem to get that rates of ‘offending’ among young people are not really a reflection of levels of criminality in the community, but rather reflect race/class/gender dynamics, policing processes, changes to legislation, like the Bail Act for example and increased powers of scumbag cops to impose bail conditions etc. or that most young people who have contact with the justice system once, don’t usually have any more contact at all, or minimal contact. It’s amazing how they can take a bunch of social issues and spin them into an “women are becoming such sluts!” narrative.

    Also, the temperence and suffragist movements weren’t really linked, although they both supported voting rights, except in the myths generated by male hegemony. Consistent with the ‘damned if you do damned if you don’t’ paradigm that women get caught up in, suffragists were criticised for being unruly, but the temperence women were accused of trying to ruin everyone’s (meaning men’s) fun for being anti-alcohol, even though the rationale was mostly to do with alcohol as a factor in VAW.

    I’d like to think that if young women are becoming more assertive in public then it’s in response to the increased misogyny and predation of young men.

  14. Purrdence

    Correct me if I’m misremembering the events from Buffy, but didn’t bad things happen to Buffy if she drank alcohol or had sex?

  15. orlando

    But in Where the Wild Things Are the blame is squarely laid on those who fought to supress adolescents’ natural sexuality, and on the repression, not on the sex. I also found Beer Bad pretty funny, so maybe I’m not the best judge.

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