Clive Robertson, the man once considered a charmingly irascible curmudgeon on top rated TV and radio shows now battles to retain a midnight to dawn talk-back radio show, and if there’s any justice then what Media Watch revealed last night will make that even harder.
All quotes below are from 2UE, Clive Robertson Overnights, 31st January, 2008
Clive Robertson: Anyway this comes to the point that men get excited easily. Men when they’ve drunk a bit want something, and they don’t care much how they get it, which can lead to rape, right?
Message: Robbo thinks men are incapable of sexual self-control.
Clive Robertson: A lot of women say yes, for who knows why, but I’ve mentioned before…women play up so much nowadays, they might as well get an ABN and just become a prostitute.
Message: Robbo thinks all sexually active women are just whores.
Clive Robertson: Men are easily stimulated by the visual, a lot of men who are dumb think if you go around showing your bits you want something. That’s the way men think. That’s as simple as that – “She wants it”.
Message: Robbo thinks it’s acceptable for men to decide that a woman looking for someone fanciable has no right to reject men she doesn’t fancy.
Laura: Okay so who should take responsibility for the rape?
Clive Robertson: I think if you’ve got a brain you should actually…
Laura: Oh stop patronising people intellectually Clive, you do not have the resources. Could you just answer the question?…Who should take responsibility for the rape?
Clive Robertson: Both. Both
I hope Laura’s head didn’t explode.
Media Watch sent an email to 2UE management pointing out that what Robertson was saying appeared to breach their own Code of Practice which states that in cases of violence against women that care should be taken to not diminish men’s responsibility. 2UE thought that Media Watch was taking Robertson out of context, and that he didn’t seek to diminish men’s responsibility at all. Media Watch pointed out the ridiculousness of this argument by quoting Robertson’s version of Sheik Hilaly’s infamous uncovered meat comment (Robertson’s involves a red dress). Go read the transcript to be transfixed with disbelief at their idea that there is some exculpatory context which absolves those comments of “diminishing men’s responsibility” for rape.
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Polar bears, crocodiles and Killer Bees.
Surely those creatures deserve better meat?
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‘Everyone loves it till they are on it’ what a great motto. I haven’t seen Mediawatch for years but used to enjoy it alot and glad to see it still kicking arse.
That is just shitehouse logic. Men are uncontrollable beasts, women are just crap all round. Its horrible and demeaning to both sexes. Was reading this out to Rob and every time he hears such spoutings he wonders what the person did in the past to try and justify that way of thinking.
I for one welcome our benevolent alien overlords.
Any man that forces himself onto a woman against her will should be
severely punished both by the law and financial compensation to the victim.
However, women have a responsibility to control THEIR instincts too…
donnie
Which particular instincts are you thinking of, that if uncontrolled would justify being raped?
Isn’t he on the ABC advising couples on their lifestyles too? You’d think he’s have enough media experience to not say something so stupid, even if he did think it.
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The Earth has FIVE times the population
of humans that it can support.
donnie
Oh, I see. You’re broken.
Uhh, Donnie, that’s an absurd comment. I think we’ve managed to separate sex from breeding, in the west anyway [unless you’re a catholic]. And we’re not the only species to do so – consider the bonobo…
It’s not about instincts, it’s about respect.
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Hey if anyone listens to Clive as much I you would realise he likes to stir. All women and men should take responsibility for thier actions anyway. We are both to blame, there alots of reasons and I wont generalise it is very complicated. Men love women and women love men to love them and take notice (they will deny it of course). When men stop looking then complain. I miss Robbo. Where are you, I will find you on the next station you bring life and humour to, truth is they can’t handle your wit and they take you to seriously ‘sometimes’.
He’s just a big teddy bear
Hey and may he who has never made mistakes, or said the wrong thing at the wrong time throw the first stone.
The media likes to crucify, lots of people don’t like Clive except his listeners, and every station he works at they can’t handle him.
Go Clive even my 15 year old daughter thinks you are great. We laugh and whats wrong with that.
Maybe some of the listeners should tune into Nova in the mornings with Merrick and Rosso, you would hear some wrong things said at the wrong time, some very naughty stuff and lots of stiring and we laugh 🙂
Well, “trish”, my level-headed response to you and to everyone else who think rape jokes are just hilarious bits of fun: fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Given the statistics of the incidence of rape, it’s good odds that in any roomful of people there will be more than one woman who has been raped or gone through an attempted rape. In a social gathering, the women there will be people that the others know and probably profess to like and care for, and when they hear a rape joke they will be reminded of their own rape. It’s unavoidable.
Even in a room full of strangers, why would anyone want to be the arsehole who not only says something to remind these women of their traumatic experience, but who says it only to mock and make little of their trauma? And then to imply that it was also somehow their own fault that some man felt entitled to rape them?
Seriously, there is no other way to view that than pure insensitive arsehole territory. Rape is not fucking hilarious, end of story.
Also
Enjoying a bit of preening and flirting does not indicate somehow having no objection to being raped, at least not to people who are not broken inside.
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